This is not a prophecy.
This is a description of what has actually
happened
in the UK, the US, France, Spain, Belgium, Australia
- and almost everywhere in the West.
Ireland recently went through all 3 stages also,
with the
Dundalk attack
being its first Islamic terror attack.
I predicted long ago that we would inevitably get to stage 3, and we did.
I could not see any argument as to why we would escape it.
Now I believe in treating people as individuals.
Many Muslim immigrants love the West.
Many are fleeing from sharia law and Islamic dictators.
Many have some (sometimes confused) admiration for non-Muslim societies and economies.
Let me expand that point:
Opinion polls
show that
Western Muslims are the most liberal, tolerant, pro-democracy Muslims in the world.
Their opinions are far superior to the opinions of Muslims in the Islamic world.
All the dissidents are here
- the religious dissidents,
the political dissidents,
the feminist dissidents, and
the gay dissidents.
All the dissident works
- such as criticism of Islam and
Islamism
- are published in the West.
This is to be celebrated.
However, there is a substantial minority
(10-20 percent)
of Muslim immigrants
who threaten our western freedoms.
They are
Islamists
- essentially religious fascists who want to impose their religious beliefs
on the rest of us.
What to do about these aggressors is one of the questions of our time.
As in the UK,
there is a lack of moderate liberal Muslims in Ireland
brave enough to stand up to the Islamists.
As in the UK,
most of the running is being made by infidels.
The Irish state treats the extremist Muslim Brotherhood as representing Muslims in Ireland.
[US diplomatic cable, 2006] says:
"Both Satardien
and Qadri have told
emboffs that
getting out a positive message on integration is difficult
because the conservative Muslims, or as Satardien refers to
the leaders at ICCI, the Wahhabis and Muslim Brotherhood,
control Islam in Ireland. He alleges that ICCI has the ear
of the GOI and blocks efforts to initiate open dialogue
within the religious community."
Dreaming of an Islamist Ireland, Ruth Dudley Edwards, May 2010:
"Currently, the Department of Foreign Affairs insists that official translations from Arabic into English be done at Clonskeagh mosque - an interesting venue for persecuted Christian asylum-seekers from, say, Egypt."
He attacks:
"an increasingly widespread Islamophobia; fuelled by an ignorance of the politics and history of the Middle East, ill informed stereotyping,
... and a misrepresentation of the tenets of the Islamic faith itself."
"Beyond Belief" on Islam, RTE TV, 7 Oct 2013.
On RTE Player here:
and clips on YouTube here:
A fascinating show.
It looked bad to begin with.
Four devout believers
-
including
Islamist
Nosayba Halawa
and
jihadist
Sam Najjair
-
plus Islam apologist
Mary Fitzgerald.
No sceptics at all.
No one to ask hard questions.
It looked bad, and the Islamist and jihadist got an easy ride to start with.
At the halfway mark it looked like a puff piece.
But then all of a sudden the host
Mick Peelo
started asking hard questions about sharia law, the ECFR,
death for apostasy, attacks on Christians,
and even
uncomfortable quotes from the Koran.
In the clip above, Peelo has just asked the
devout religious fundamentalist
Muhammad Taufiq Sattar
about the death sentence for apostasy.
Now this poor man
has just had his entire family killed
in England
in a random arson attack on the wrong address
by a gang of street scum.
(They were aiming for another house 2 doors away.)
Here is his chance to stand up against the death penalty for apostasy.
But he does not.
He uses rambling metaphors, and never addresses the question.
One is left with an impression that he has no problem with the death penalty for apostasy.
He is later asked
does he support sharia law,
but he just rambles on again.
Nosayba Halawa says the punishment for apostasy
is really meant for those who leave Islam and then "fight" against it.
Which of course could mean just preaching or proselytizing.
Shaheed Satardien
says Ireland should control the immigration of extremists:
"Neither should the [Irish] government allow in any further senior clerics from outside Ireland,
from places like Egypt or Sudan.
Many of these recent arrivals are preaching a message that is divisive
and ultimately very dangerous to Ireland and its citizens."
Open question to Shaheed Satardien:
Can you state that everyone in the world
should have the right to draw cartoons of Muhammed,
Jesus or any other figure.
Can you state that all Muslims in the world should have the right to freely convert
to any other religion, or to atheism,
without fear.
Let me know the answer here.
Letter, 2 Feb 2007:
"The Supreme Muslim Council of Ireland would like to say that it believes that the rule of civil law,
the democratic system of representation in government,
the protection of the rights of women and minorities
and the freedom of thought and belief - under all of which we live here in Ireland -
are not only compatible with Islamic values but are closer to the ethos and spirit of tolerance,
pluralism and peace in Islam and better serve the Irish Muslim community
than the undemocratic regimes and the draconian judicial systems
found in some predominately Muslim countries today."
Great stuff, but still not enough.
Can the Supreme Muslim Council of Ireland answer my questions above?
Shaheed Satardien is attacked by politically-correct left-wingers and conservative Muslim groups:
Satardien
claimed
that extremist Islamist views are widespread among young Muslims in Ireland.
Racism group claims Irish media is fuelling Islamophobia, August 27, 2006:
The ultra PC
"National Consultative Committee on Racism and Interculturalism"
(NCCRI, which taxpayers are forced to fund)
complains about the coverage given to Satardien.
The NCCRI says:
"One paper widely quoted the leader of the Muslim Supreme Council of Ireland.
This entity is almost non-existent and has a handful of members.
It is completely unrepresentative, as were the unfounded opinions of its leader.
Just because something makes a good soundbite or is shocking,
does not mean it is correct or should be printed."
I agree with
John Fay
that those who want to deny any possible Islamism problem
- like the NCCRI
and conservative Muslim groups like the ICCI -
are liable to increase "Islamophobia",
while Muslims who challenge Islamism like Satardien
are liable to reduce it.
The ICCI says:
"We have 1,000 people coming to the mosque here at each of the weekend prayer meetings,
and many are horrified that extreme and complete untrue statements are being made,
and allowed to go almost unchallenged."
What are they talking about?
The appalling statements of their fascist associate
Yusuf Al-Qaradawi?
No. They are talking about claims that Islamist ideas are spreading among young Irish Muslims.
The ICCI's reaction makes one afraid that these claims must be true.
Then the ICCI says:
"We have had to deal with enough anti-Islam criticism through the years,
but when it comes from one of your supposed own, it is even more difficult to deal with."
Frankly, that sounds like a threat to any Muslim who dares to speak against Islamism.
Not a physical threat, but certainly a threat of
ostracism in the Muslim community.
If the ICCI welcomes Muslims who attack Islamism,
there is no sign of it here.
Describing Satardien as
"one of your supposed own" is a particularly nasty, closed-ranks, tribal
turn of phrase.
As I say, groups like the ICCI merely spread fear of Islam
with reactions like this.
Ali Al Saleh
reacts very well to Irish Islamic terror plot, Mar 2010.
Ali Al Saleh, quoted on 14 Mar 2010:
"In Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, the niqab and the burqa is the culture.
But in Ireland we know the niqab means extremism and radicalism. I have lived in Ireland for more than 25 years and we didn't have the niqab before. This is worrying, as it is a sign we are not successful in defeating extremism.
Extremism is the last stage before being recruited by terrorists. Not all extremists are terrorists, but all terrorists are extremists."
He is a rare Muslim voice in Ireland who does not hate the Americans for liberating Iraq:
"Tomorrow will be the third anniversary of the invasion of Iraq. In many countries today - including Ireland - people opposed to that war will be demonstrating against the invasion which liberated my people ...
But I have to ask these demonstrators some questions. Do you not want my people to enjoy democracy? Do you not want us to breathe the same air of freedom that you breathe? ...
Three years ago, about 100,000 well-intentioned but badly-informed people
in Dublin protested against our liberation from one of the world's most oppressive dictatorships".
On the "anti-war" lies that
blame Bush and Blair for the jihad killings:
"Critics of the war claim that the liberation of Iraq has caused the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis. But this is absolutely false. Far more people are killed by terrorist attacks than were killed in the initial invasion
...
In my own family, these losses are especially personal. My wife lost three brothers in one terrorist attack last year. Multinational forces did not kill them; instead, terrorists with no place in a free and democratic Iraq killed them."
And to finally blow the brains of any Irish lefties:
"As Iraqis living in Ireland ... We thank the Dáil for its resolution in March 2003 endorsing the use of Shannon airport by multinational forces".
What does the anti-American
John Neill, Archbishop of Dublin
think of that?
The Milltown mosque is against Sunni extremism but in favour of Shia extremism?
The Iranian embassy
in Ireland say there was an "Al-Quds Day" event at the mosque in Apr 2024.
The persecuted
Ahmadiyya
sect
are to be admired
because they have a theological objection to jihad.
Ahmadis have never carried out a single terrorist attack.
Their morality is far superior to mainstream Islamic morality.
Having said that, they are religious crackpots, of course.
Irish convert
Imam Ibrahim Noonan,
of the Ahmadi mosque in Galway,
discusses the
age of Muhammad's wife Aisha.
First he denies the clear hadith that says she was age 9 when
53 year old
Muhammad had sex with her.
But his version is not much better.
He says she was around 12 or 13.
He apparently says it is ok for a 53 year old man to have sex with a 12 year old girl if she is "mature".
See source for
first
and second
and third
tweet.
Ibrahim Noonan hates Israel, and got angry with me in March 2022 for supporting Israel.
He said Israel shot dead an innocent woman, Mai Afana, in June 2021.
I pointed out that Mai Afana was carrying out a
terrorist attack.
Noonan was so angry at me pointing this out that he
targeted my employer.
So I had to block him.
Why do people behave like this?
I oppose the immigration not only of those who support jihad and sharia,
but also of those who do not oppose jihad and sharia.
This is not Ireland's immigration policy, of course.
Ireland lets in Muslims who support jihad and sharia, no problem.
No attempt is made to ensure that Muslims entering Ireland subscribe to western values.
Allegations
(also here)
that some of them were connected to the Taliban.
If it is true that these people are connected to the Taliban,
then they should be deported, even if their lives are in danger.
We should not care about the lives and safety of fascists.
We should not let them in,
because they will only attack us.
People who do not believe in Western values should not be let in to the West,
even if they are being persecuted.
The Irish Daily Mail
points out
the irony of them desecrating a Christian church in Ireland rather than a mosque:
"Here was a group of Muslim zealots, some of whom were allied in Afghanistan
to political groups who treat Christianity with murderous contempt."
OK, so maybe it is false that they are Muslim zealots.
But why did they desecrate a church rather than a mosque?
It is reasonable to oppose the immigration of people who threaten Western freedom,
such as any Muslim who supports sharia or jihad or Islamism.
But Ireland should be open to the immigration of people who love the West
and are threatened by Islamists and jihadists.
For example, Ireland should let in apostates from Islam,
who fear the death threats that are mandated in Islam
for leaving the religion.
The majority (59 percent) of Irish Muslims disagree that
"people in Ireland should be free to say whatever they want,
even if it offends other people's religious beliefs".
Though 35 percent agree.
37 percent of Irish Muslims would like Ireland to be governed as an Islamic state.
Though 50 percent said they would not.
The majority (57 percent) of young Irish Muslims (under 26)
believe Ireland should become an Islamic State.
36 percent of Irish Muslims said they "respect" Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
42 percent of Irish people agree that:
"Islamic fundamentalism is a serious threat for our country".
46 percent of Irish people agree that:
"We must stop countries like Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons,
even if that means taking military action".
Survey of Irish people, Irish Times, 16 Sept 2010,
shows Irish people may be to the right of me on Islam:
49 percent of Irish say wearing the burka in public should be banned.
36 percent say it should not.
I probably think
it should not be banned.
But I do think wearing it (or the niqab)
should be grounds for denying immigrants entry
in the first place.
Irish Attitudes Toward Israel.
Rory Miller, 1 October 2006, speculates on the future of Islam in Ireland:
"The local Muslim community is small approaching twenty thousand. ...
The local Muslims are far less extreme than many in Britain, France, or Germany.
When the Mohammed cartoons appeared in Denmark, a few hundred Muslims marched through the streets of Dublin. Their placards were relatively mild by Muslim standards, carrying texts such as: 'You must respect the Prophet.' I have no doubt that in a few years they will carry placards saying, like elsewhere, that people should be killed, or that Europe is dead."
They are
hostile to the Halawas,
the Islamist, Muslim Brotherhood family that the Irish left loves.
Old page
says:
"how many people know that, other than in Qatar, the Muslim Brotherhood has its strongest support base in Ireland, with the Clonskeagh Mosque acting as a base of operations?
Irish people ought to reflect on this before lending their support to Ibrahim Halawa,
whose father is the chief representative of the Brotherhood here. Hussein Halawa answers directly to Yusuf al-Qaradawi, known for his defence of suicide bombings as a legitimate means of warfare, as well as praising Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust as blessings from God."
I used to talk here about
Rotimi Adebari,
Ireland's first black mayor,
who was described as an apostate from Islam.
But I am confused by a
7 Aug 2007 article
(see text
and search)
in the Nigerian
Thisday
newspaper, which implies Adebari was born Christian
and hence is not an apostate.
See more analysis
which says Adebari is Christian and his hometown is Christian.
Can anyone produce proof that Adebari is an apostate from Islam?
Or show me another prominent apostate from Islam in Ireland?
Tell me here.