I don't know why people are so shocked by the disgusting opinions expressed by much of the Islamic world
in the polls below.
Of course
the Islamic world has disgusting opinions.
That's why it has so many problems.
If the Islamic world had reasonable opinions,
it would not be such a sea of oppression, terror, war and poverty.
The Arab Spring would have worked.
If the Palestinians had reasonable opinions,
and supported democracy and human rights and compromise,
there would be no Israel conflict.
Palestinians would be rich.
The failures of the Islamic world are not failures of leadership.
They are failures of the people.
It is because of their disgusting opinions
that the Islamic world is the way it is.
Many people can't believe these polls.
They know many western, liberal Muslims,
and think the fundamentalist maniacs are a tiny minority.
But the opinion polls show that is not true.
Opinion polls show that the extremists and terrorists
represent mainstream opinion in the Islamic world
(large minority, and often majority).
The polls show there are millions of Muslim liberals.
But it is not enough.
That is still a small minority.
There need to be hundreds of millions
of liberals to make an impact.
The Pew Research Center
has done a number of surveys of the appalling opinions of the Islamic world.
The majority (52 percent) of Egyptians
support the Sept 11th killings.
"How would you describe your feelings when you saw the destruction of New York's twin towers?"
(Multiple answers allowed.)
"They deserved it: 52%".
"Admiration for the culprits: 28%".
The majority in
Morocco, Jordan, the Palestinian Authority, Kuwait, Lebanon,
Indonesia and
Pakistan
want to end the state of Israel.
The majority in
Indonesia, Jordan,
Morocco, Pakistan and the Palestinian Authority
express some support for
Osama bin Laden.
The majority in
Turkey,
Indonesia, Pakistan, Jordan
and the Palestinian Authority
said the Iraqis were worse off
without the genocidal tyrant Saddam Hussein.
The majority in
Turkey, Indonesia, Pakistan, Lebanon, Jordan,
Morocco and the Palestinian Authority
were disappointed that Iraq did not put up
more of a fight.
91 percent in Egypt support attacks on US troops in Iraq.
91 percent in Egypt support attacks on US troops in Afghanistan.
68 percent in Morocco support attacks on US troops in Iraq.
61 percent in Morocco support attacks on US troops in Afghanistan.
25 percent in Egypt support Al Qaeda attacks.
A further 31 percent say they oppose its methods
but agree with Al Qaeda's attitudes.
40 percent of Egyptians have "positive" feelings towards Bin Laden.
Only 2 percent in Pakistan say Al Qaeda carried out 9/11.
27 percent say the U.S. government did it.
7 percent say Israel did it.
29 percent of Egyptians say Israel carried out 9/11.
79 percent in Pakistan agree "strongly" or "somewhat"
that there should be strict sharia in all Muslim countries.
76 percent in Morocco agree "strongly" or "somewhat"
that there should be strict sharia in all Muslim countries.
74 percent in Egypt agree "strongly" or "somewhat"
that there should be strict sharia in all Muslim countries.
There are some positive things in the above survey too.
I have just highlighted the most disturbing findings.
The Islamic world clearly has a long way to go.
Pew Survey of Muslim countries, July 2007.
Clear drop in support for Al Qaeda and suicide bombing.
The Bin Laden revolution may never happen.
The jihadis may be dying for nothing.
Muslim societies continue, it is true,
to have large numbers of supporters of Islamic terror.
But the civilized Muslims may be slowly winning the argument.
Back in 2002:
74 percent of Lebanese supported suicide bombing of civilians.
47 percent of Nigerians supported suicide bombing of civilians.
44 percent in Bangladesh supported suicide bombing of civilians.
43 percent of Jordanians supported suicide bombing of civilians.
33 percent of Pakistanis supported suicide bombing of civilians.
Now in 2007:
42 percent of Nigerians support suicide bombing of civilians.
34 percent of Lebanese support suicide bombing of civilians.
23 percent of Jordanians support suicide bombing of civilians.
20 percent in Bangladesh support suicide bombing of civilians.
9 percent of Pakistanis support suicide bombing of civilians.
8 percent of Egyptians support suicide bombing of civilians.
51 per cent of Pakistanis feel "grief" at the death of Osama bin Laden.
And yet:
Poll, Spring 2011,
shows only 8 percent of Pakistanis support suicide bombing of civilians.
This must be a reaction to the
tidal wave of jihadist violence
that Pakistan has been suffering in recent years,
a real example of "blowback" from the Islamic extremism that Pakistan has supported since its foundation in 1947.
As I said, all over the world, ordinary people
have disgusting and sick political opinions.
That's the way
the world is.
That's the way
it's always been.
That's why history is such a bloodbath.
The appalling opinions of the Islamic world.
Poll of 2012, released Apr 2013.
There is some hope in the Balkans, Turkey, Lebanon and the former Soviet Union.
There is no hope in Palestine, Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan or Iraq.
See
another graph
of the same data,
from here.
Slow learners:
Poll, July 2014,
shows a fall over the years in support for jihad.
As the Islamic world burns under Obama, this poll
shows a gradual fall in support for jihadi slaughter across the Islamic world.
It's a bit late now to have regrets.
You started this inferno, people.
Good luck trying to stop it.
This misleading propaganda went viral after the
Sydney jihad attack of Dec 2014.
It implies that Muslims who aren't active jihadists are opposed to them.
That is like claiming that all American civilians are opposed to the US military.
In reality, perhaps 300 to 500 million Muslims support violent jihad,
depending how the question is posed in surveys.
From Eric Amer.
I debated
with a bloke, Karl Hayden, who claimed
that only
"about 100k are involved in militant Islam. That's about 0.009% of the 1.6b Muslims in the world."
I try to explain the real stats to him.
I thought this was just a matter of quoting polls,
but it does not go well.
It's hopeless.
Graphic from
Saif Rahman
portrays reality, as opposed to Eric Amer's distortion above.
Sports commentator
Curt Schilling
got into trouble for this tweet in Aug 2015.
His TV network, ESPN, suspended him.
But can anyone explain what is wrong with it?
He is not comparing Muslims to Nazis.
He is comparing Muslims to Germans.
(If even that. He is making a general point about extremists.)
Raheel Raza,
a Pakistani Muslim anti-extremism activist,
argues against those naive westerners (like Barack Obama and Ben Affleck)
who think only 1% of Muslims support extremism and terror.
She says
(as I do) that there is no hope of progress
unless we confront the actual facts.
Her analysis of the opinion polls is near the end of the video.
She shows that, depending on definition,
hundreds of millions of Muslims in the world are extremists.
Not all of them.
Not 1.5 billion.
But not a tiny minority either.
American Muslim
Daniel Haqiqatjou
attempts a reply to the above graph.
The first clue this is dodgy is that there are no numbers attached to particular offensive beliefs.
We just have vague labels.
In the article he says "Radical Atheists"
are "people who wake up wanting to kill Muslims and other believers".
Do such people exist?
His only example of such a person is the
Chapel Hill killer,
a man who supported the Ground Zero mosque!
His next circle is
"neoconservatives and hawkish liberals as well as hardline secularists".
He fails to explain what is wrong with these people.
He is angry at the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq,
but millions of Muslims supported those invasions.
Are they in this circle too?
He has a circle of "racists",
which seems to be anyone who criticises jihad or sharia.
His terms are worthless.
The only people he calls "moderates" are people who are
"horrified by US foreign policy".
Nice sleight of hand.
Anyone who disagrees with Haqiqatjou's anti-American views on foreign policy
is an "extremist"!
His list of dangerous "radical" kuffar, I mean atheists,
includes
Christopher Hitchens,
Sam Harris,
Geert Wilders,
Richard Dawkins and
Bill Maher.
This is all he has to counter-balance the millions of Islamic clerics and jihadists
screaming for oppression and terror?
Truly pathetic.
Daniel Haqiqatjou is an Islamist extremist.
He is from a secular Shia Iranian background,
but sadly became more devout than his family,
switched to the Sunni tradition,
and became a Sunni Islamist.
He supports the Taliban, 15 Aug 2021:
"May Allah bless and give continuous victory to those who establish the Sharia of Allah on this earth, despite the fact that the kuffar and the hypocrites hate it."
Supporters of Osama Bin Laden,
Bangladesh, Oct 2001, shortly after 9/11.
They are protesting about the imminent invasion of Afghanistan.
What is hilarious about these posters is that
Bert,
the Sesame Street muppet, appears on them.
See
explanation.
We all know that Palestinians support killing Jewish civilians.
Less well known is their support for killing other Western civilians.
After 9/11, Palestinians danced in the streets to
celebrate the killing
of thousands of innocent American civilians.
Opinion polls showed a large percentage of Palestinians celebrated 9/11.
I used to say here that a majority of Palestinians supported 9/11.
But I think that is wrong, or at least unproved.
In fact, the question was never properly asked.
I cannot find a single poll that asked them: "9/11: Support or oppose?"
The answers to the questions they were asked are still disturbing.
Oct 2001 poll
shows 51 percent of Palestinians think 9/11 was a Jewish plot.
Sept 2003 poll:
37 percent of Palestinians say the 9/11 attackers were terrorists.
36 percent say "Martyrs" or "Freedom Fighters".
27 percent "Don't know".
2005 poll:
65 percent of Palestinians support Al Qaeda bombings in US and Europe.
(Which would include 9/11.)
See
Table 2.22(2).
2003 to 2010 polls above
repeatedly show the majority of Palestinians supporting Bin Laden.
Poll: Decrease in Palestinian support of terror,
Dec. 8, 2004.
After Arafat's death,
a majority of Palestinians, for the first time,
now oppose the intifada.
Albeit this would be for strategic reasons - because the intifada is not working
- not because they have suddenly discovered that killing civilians is wrong.
But still, it's a start.
No, scratch that.
These same Islamofascist bombers have been killing Iraqi Muslims by the thousand,
to Palestinian applause.
By "civilians" they mean Palestinian Muslims.
Palestinians Taste Their Own Medicine
- Daniel Pipes
on the Jordan bombings.
"And, guess what: they did not like it.
...
Will the Palestinians' shameful love affair with suicide killings and "martyrdom"
diminish after the atrocity in Amman? Might a taste of their own medicine teach them
that what goes around comes around? That barbarism ultimately visits the barbarians too?"
Answer: No.
Poll, Feb 2006
- 56 percent of Palestinians support
suicide bombing of Israeli civilians.
Poll, July 2006
- 60 percent of Palestinians support
rocket attacks on Israeli civilians.
67 percent support
kidnapping and murdering Israeli civilians.
Survey, July 2007:
70 percent of Palestinians support suicide bombing of civilians.
When asked about support for specific policy choices to break the current deadlock,
55% of Palestinians support a return to armed attacks.
59% view armed attacks against Israelis inside Israel as serving the national interest.
56% support armed attacks against Israelis inside Israel
(73% in Gaza and 44% in West Bank).
Palestinians
celebrate the 9/11 killings.
It is not unfair to show this, since
this is not just a handful of people.
A large percentage of Palestinians celebrated the 9/11 killings.
Palestinians celebrate 9/11.
Arafat and Bin Laden are on the same side.
Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniya Condemns the Killing of the "Muslim Mujahid" Osama Bin Laden.
May 3, 2011.
"we, of course, condemn the assassination or killing of a Muslim mujahid and an Arab.
We pray for Allah to cover him with His mercy".
