The Irish left (politics)
I agree with the Irish left on civil liberties.
I disagree with them primarily
on the economy, crime, and foreign policy.
I could live with this
until the
War on Islamism
began on Sept 11th 2001,
when foreign policy became so much more important.
I cannot now support any party that does not support America.
The Presidents
- Mary Robinson
- President Mary McAleese's
trip to the Islamofascist state of Saudi Arabia
(where the state executes gay men and women), Feb 2006,
is a classic example of the uselessness of "official Ireland".
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McAleese is not particularly left-wing, and neither is the government that approves her words.
Yet in front of an audience representing one of the most brutal, backward, bigoted,
apartheid states in the world,
she chose to state that the people of Ireland
"abhorred the publication"
of the Muhammed cartoons.
Thus siding us with the Saudi religious fanatics against the modern, tolerant Danish.
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Does Madam wish to attend a beheading?, Ruth Dudley Edwards,
Sunday Independent, Feb 19, 2006, on McAleese's visit:
- "Can you imagine a President of Ireland visiting South Africa during apartheid
and saying nothing about oppression and forced segregation being wrong? Or comparing her past slight disadvantages
to an audience in which token, handpicked blacks were behind screens? Or justifying giving blacks more opportunities
simply on economic and cultural grounds? Or commenting blithely that the "feisty, determined" blacks she met
were delighted she had come to the country?"
- "Our President is anxious that Muslims should not be offended, but in the last couple of weeks
she has grievously offended unionists, as well as the many Irish citizens who think we should be standing up
for the Danes and free speech, rather than caving into Islamo-fascist intimidation by saying
we all "abhorred" the publication of the cartoons."
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Ireland is on rebound from consumerism, says President (Mary McAleese), December 16, 2008.
- McAleese comes out with the usual stuff about how great it is (or would be) if the Celtic Tiger is ending.
- Shouldn't the headline read:
Terrific that other people aren't rich, says rich person.
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More or less everybody in
Labour, Sinn Fein and the Greens
is hostile to western power and western victory.
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Even among the sensible parties,
sizeable minorities
of Fine Gael, FF, and even the PDs
are neutrals
or even opponents of
the front-line western democracies:
America, Britain and Israel.
- FG, FF, and PD hostility to Israel
-
Rory Miller, Sept 6, 2006:
"Among the 120 members of the Dail
and the 100 members of the Senate, not one name springs to mind as a regular defender of Israel.
There are either those who do not care or pro-Palestinians."
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Ireland is a bit of an ideological wilderness.
I have almost no heroes
among Irish politicians.
My heroes are elsewhere.
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Eoghan Harris
became an Independent
Senator
(Nominated by the Taoiseach)
in 2007.
At last, somebody in the Senate to counter the foreign policy nonsense of
David Norris
and
Ivana Bacik.
You don't speak for me, President McAleese.
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The Labour Party
- The Labour Party
were heroes of the fight to separate church and state in the 1970s-90s.
I certainly like their secular, civil liberties side.
- Barry Desmond,
Minister for Health,
passed perhaps the greatest achievement of the Irish left in my lifetime,
the
Health (Family Planning) (Amendment) Act, Mar 1985,
that legalised contraception for single people.
I will forever be grateful to him and Labour for this.
- So I like Labour on issues like sexuality, religion and civil liberties.
And, during the 1990s Celtic Tiger boom,
they looked like following the lead of Blair's New Labour in the UK
in becoming pro-business
and even (under Clinton) pro-American.
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Sadly, out of office after 1997,
their anti-American and anti-capitalist side has made a comeback:
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The 1999 merger with the far-left
Democratic Left
(former members of the
extremist Workers Party)
seems to have swung them to the left.
Labour's leaders since 2002 have all been ex Workers Party -
first
Pat Rabbitte,
then
Eamon Gilmore.
Labour's senior MEP is the ex Workers Party
Proinsias De Rossa.
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These former Workers Party members have all been on a journey
away from their pro-Soviet past, but they haven't travelled far enough for me.
It was a sad day when Labour merged with them.
- Labour's foreign affairs spokesman is the anti-American, anti-Israel
Michael D. Higgins.
The Iraq War of 2003 was the defining moment when they split with
Blair's New Labour and chose a different route.
If Labour want my vote, they need to reverse this decline
and return to following the lead of Blair.
- Anti-West:
- Labour opposed the liberation of Iraq in 2003.
And ever since liberation, they have called for immediate withdrawal of the
allied troops
trying to set up democracy in Iraq.
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This moral vacuum on Iraq
.. why won't the Irish left
support those trying to rebuild after Saddam?,
Henry McDonald, March 7, 2004,
on the pathetic Irish left-wing silence about
- and even support for - the fascist Iraq
"resistance".
In the face of a fascist assault on the people of Iraq,
the Irish Labour Party is silent.
"the mainstream, rational left has
surrendered the agenda to the Trots and Stalinists.
.. not a single voice
in the Irish Labour Party spoke out
in favour of their comrades in the Iraqi
Socialist Party who supported the War".
There was no Irish Tony Blair, and
"There were no Irish equivalents of the courageous Welsh Labour MP Ann
Clywd".
The Iraq War is a historic low moment for the Irish Labour Party.
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Labour's sick tribute to Arafat
after his death in Nov 2004
mentions nothing about Arafat's many deliberate killings of civilians.
And "his alleged autocratic style of leadership"
is as close as they get to referring to
the fact that
Arafat was an
unelected dictator, who could have set up a democracy with political parties
and a free press, but chose not to.
Aren't Labour meant to be against dictators,
not apologists for them.
- The idea
that Michael D. Higgins should run for President of Ireland
is madness.
If he became President, he would make Ireland hated in America.
Americans don't realise such people exist in Ireland.
- Labour isn't all bad, though.
Labour councillors
Aidan Culhane
and John McManus
and TD
Joanna Tuffy
have criticised the trendy, unthinking, anti-American, anti-Israel, Michael D. Higgins
party line on the Middle East.
- Anti-capitalist:
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Alex White, 5 Nov 2008, hopes that Obama's election means:
"the end of the Reagan era, an end to the neo-liberal model of capitalism, which was fostered by President Reagan and Margaret Thatcher and which has its apostles in this country".
In other words, he's against the very ideas that have brought
prosperity to Ireland!
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He also sneers that:
"we now have the prospect that the US will again become a force for good."
As if Ireland has toppled any dictatorships recently (or ever).
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A Sunday Independent poll in Feb 2004
of Ireland's top chief
executives
asked them which was the best party for business.
Their answers:
| Party |
Percent |
| PDs |
50 |
| Fianna Fail |
40 |
| Fine Gael |
9 |
| Labour |
1 |
| Sinn Fein |
0 |
| Greens |
0 |
This is a stunning decline for
Fine Gael and Labour.
Business people think that
Fine Gael and Labour
are no longer credible
managers of the economy.
It doesn't have to be this way.
In a poll
of UK business leaders,
Blair's Labour might or might not be top
but there is no way it
would stand at just 1 percent.
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Sunday Independent poll
of Irish chief executives, Apr 2006.
Which party is best for business?
51 percent FF.
39 percent PD.
10 percent FG.
- Labour Youth
(and here)
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The youth wing of the Labour Party
(and here)
supports
sabotage attacks on allied equipment
in the War on Islamism:
"Labour Youth supports
the protest of the Derry Anti-War Coalition. Rather than anti war
protestors being charged and brought to court Raytheon should instead be
put on trial for supplying components of death to the Israeli State.
...
We are calling for and supporting
non-violent occupation of all weapons manufacturers that supply arms to
the Israeli Military."
And this support for sabotage
appears on Labour's
main website.
Disgraceful.
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Labour Youth calls for Israel Boycott to mark UN Day of Solidarity with Palestine, Nov 2006.
- Labour Youth,
even in 2007,
protest the
"ongoing illegal and criminal occupation of Iraq by the US government",
refer to the
"ongoing criminal, illegal and immoral activities perpetrated on a daily basis by the US government in Iraq",
and call for Ireland to refuse the US military access to Shannon.
What planet are they living on?
- Labour Youth, Oct 2007,
openly supports third-world strongman thug
Hugo Chavez.
About Chavez's Venezuela, they say:
"Conference resolutely believes: That this is an example of twenty first century socialism, and that it is a socio-economic model that is worth aspiring to.
...
Conference welcomes: The attempts by President Hugo Chavez to initiate the economic transition from a Capitalist state to a Socialist state, which is to be brought about democratically".
I suppose tyranny and poverty are alright for foreigners, just not for Ireland.
- A popular myth: "Ireland is dominated by Civil War politics".
- FF and FG combined persistently get about
60-70 percent of the vote.
As a result, there has never been in Ireland a clear left-right divide,
but rather a competition between FF and allies, and FG and allies.
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A popular myth on the left is that Ireland votes for FF and FG
because of their positions in the Civil War,
and that people just vote the way their family has always voted,
without thinking about it.
That most voting is inherited, not reasoned,
as one snotty letter writer
in the Irish Times in 2007 put it.
- Could anything better show the contempt of intellectual elites
for the people of Ireland?
Do they really think people around the country don't think about their vote?
The sad truth for the left is that most Irish people are not left-wing,
and want a choice between two sensible, fairly conservative parties.
And there is no sign of that changing.
The Irish people's support for FF and FG represents reason and long thought, not unthinking
inheritance and tradition.
One can certainly see why the left would resist such a conclusion.
- Labour blogs
- The Green Party
of Ireland
- The Green Party
makes some sense locally - on preserving old buildings and natural areas.
I would support them on things like preserving the
Hill of Tara.
- But more or less everything they say about science
and international issues is wrong.
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The Green Party supports homeopathy.
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The Green Party's long and shameful opposition to the democracy of Israel.
- The Green Party's
sick tribute
to the Jew-killing dictator
Yasser Arafat, 11th November 2004:
"Green Party Leader, Trevor Sargent TD, said today that Yasser Arafat ...
would always be remembered as a symbol of the Palestinian people, a symbol of unity, and steadfastness in their struggle for international recognition as an independent state."
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The Green Party's long and shameful opposition to the establishment of democracy in Iraq.
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Greens AWOL on Iraq:
Why the silence on the Marsh Arabs?, Paul Kengor & Cory Shreckengost, June 24, 2003,
point out that many of the West's enemies - from the Soviets to Saddam
- destroy their countries' environments as easily as they destroy their
political opponents.
"If anything, the environmental movement should thank the Bush administration for liberating the environment from the tyrannical activity of an oppressive eco-dictator. ...
But don't expect an announcement from Greenpeace anytime soon."
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John Gormley in the Dail, 10 November 2004
- "I do not welcome President Bush's re-election.
I would have preferred John Kerry
to have been elected."
Well, all I can say is
Ha ha ha ha!
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Ciarán Cuffe calls for sanctions against the democracy of Israel, Jan 2009.
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I do agree with the Greens sometimes:
The Greens insult the Chinese ambassador, Apr 2008. Good for them.
- Fine Gael
- Fine Gael
were always historically the pro-capitalist and pro-West party.
As Fianna Fail adopted these policies,
Fine Gael have, in a slow death wish, been abandoning them.
It is bad enough that business leaders now
trust Fianna Fail on the economy
far more than Fine Gael
(see survey).
But to make things even worse,
on Iraq, Fine Gael did not follow
the Tory example
of praising the government,
but instead sided with the anti-American left
against our western democratic allies.
If Fine Gael want my vote, they need to reverse this decline
and return
to what they stood for in the past.
- Simon Coveney
of Fine Gael
- David McWilliams
points out that:
- Green Party supporters are the richest in Ireland.
- The Labour Party has the second richest supporters.
- George W. Bush was more popular in Ireland than any of the minor parties:
- 19 percent of Irish said they would vote for George W. Bush in the
2004 U.S. election.
- This means that
George W. Bush was more popular in Ireland than:
- The Labour Party
(11 percent of Irish voted for them in the
2002 election
and 10 percent in the
2007 election).
- Sinn Fein
(7 percent of Irish voted for them in the 2002 election
and 7 percent in the 2007 election).
- The Green Party
(4 percent of Irish voted for them in the 2002 election
and 5 percent in the 2007 election).
- Indeed, George W. Bush was more popular in Ireland
than any Irish party except the big two of FF and FG.
Not that you would ever have known it by reading the Irish media.
- Who would I vote for?
- The Socialist Party
- Socialist Youth
- The Socialist Party
openly
admires
(also here
and here)
the butchers
Lenin and Trotsky,
who killed 4 million people
- in mass executions, death camps, and state-caused famine.
This is the equivalent of a party that admires Hitler and Eichmann
participating in democratic politics.
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The Socialist Party doesn't like being called anti-American
- They praise
(also
here)
the tyranny of
Cuba.
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Joe Higgins in the Dail
- "Is the Government saying it shares the values of an administration
[the US]
that has built a gulag on its own doorstep in Guantanamo
whose methods would rival any of the infamous gulags built by the Stalinists
in eastern Europe in their heyday?"
No wonder he supports Lenin
- if he thinks the Lenin/Stalin gulags were only as bad as Guantanamo Bay.
- Socialist Workers Party
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The Communist Party of Ireland
(and here)
- The CPI openly
admires
the butcher
Lenin,
who killed 4 million people.
- They openly
regret
the fall of the brutal imperialist Soviet Union.
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Again, it is amusing to read how
the hard left were appalled and depressed
by the events of 1989-91,
while the rest of us (i.e. all normal people) were celebrating.
The phrase
"the world's smallest violin"
comes to mind as they describe how their faith was shattered
by the liberation of Eastern Europe.
"it was a gut-wrenching personal blow to my whole understanding of the world",
says Thomas Kenny.
"I reckon that many other people, including some perhaps in this room, were traumatised by 1991."
- You would need a heart of stone not to laugh.
- Today, the CPI openly
links
to
the communist parties of
Russia and the Ukraine,
which have killed 60 million people.
- They
openly support
the tyranny of
Cuba.
- They also supported
the genocide state of
North Korea.
- Michael O'Riordan
grew up in a free democratic society, yet
supported Stalin, the Soviet Union, communist Cuba and
communist North Vietnam.
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See obituary.
The CPI openly admit:
"Michael O'Riordan was a defender of the Soviet Union throughout his life".
- Interview, 1999
shows he supported East Germany and Cuba.
On Stalin:
"I think he wasn't all bad, not compared with Hitler, Mussolini or Franco."
On the Irish economy:
"All the talk is about this damn Celtic Tiger. It is as if no one has realised this tiger is Asian and that it has already begun to collapse."
- The appalling
John Charles McQuaid, Archbishop of Dublin
denounced him from the pulpit.
"McQuaid informed them that voting for Red O'Riordan amounted to a mortal sin."
What a choice, but I'd have to say I'm with McQuaid.
- The Workers Party
- Official Sinn Fein
and the Official IRA
- Sinn Fein the Workers Party
- Democratic Left
- The Workers Party
supported (not just opposed action against,
but actually supported!)
the genocide states of
the Soviet Union,
China,
North Vietnam
and North Korea.
They supported
East Germany,
Serbia,
Cuba and
the PLO.
Anything evil, they supported it.
- And they are still not ashamed of this.
They openly say:
"We supported the Vietnamese people in their struggle against the barbarous American imperialist aggression
...
we have had as guests at our Annual Ard Fheis representatives from
the Palestinian Liberation Organisation,
Cuba, China, Korea, the former USSR and GDR"
- Proinsias De Rossa
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The Workers Party
sought funding from the Soviet Government.
This was openly admitted in the
Proinsias De Rossa libel case.
It was also openly admitted in that case that in 1983 the Workers Party
established links with the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
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Garland planned a global revolution, Jim Cusack,
October 16, 2005
- Claims that the Workers Party had links to the KGB in the 1980s.
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The Workers Party and North Korea
(also
here)
- Representatives of genocidal North Korea
attended Workers Party ard-fheiseanna in the 1990s.
- Remember that in the 1990s North Korea
killed 2 million men, women and children
through famine and concentration camps.
- They admit links to North Korea:
"The Workers' Party has never denied, or attempted to make secret, its
links with North Korea and its work to promote political, social and cultural
links to Ireland."
- The
Panorama
program "The superdollar plot",
20 June 2004
- Workers Party President,
Sean Garland,
was arrested 2005
and is fighting
extradition to the US.
Sinn Fein - extremist and violent
"Why should I expect any different from a Tánaiste and a Government over this partial-parliament in this little semi-statelet over which he is presiding?"
The mask slips,
Mar 2008,
and
Sinn Fein TD
Arthur Morgan
shows us what he thinks of the rich, successful Irish republic that he would
like to destroy.
Let's hope the ignorant Marxist radicals of Sinn Fein never get the chance to wreck Ireland's
successful modern economy.
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