Do I support the Jyllands-Posten cartoons themselves?
Not really. I think they are almost all pretty poor.
What I support is the right of Jyllands-Posten
(or anyone else) to print them
(or any other religious satire).
The cartoons don't really express my thoughts about Mohammed
- but that is not relevant.
The issue is not this bunch of cartoons.
The issue is whether religious satire is legal in Europe.
The Iraqi jihadis were angry over the cartoons,
which they saw as insulting their religion.
bombed random Christians at church,
slaughtering innocents to show their anger.
Hypocritical, evil savages.
Nigerian Muslims were angry at the cartoons' depiction of their religion as violent,
so in response they attacked Christians and burned Christian churches,
burning a man alive, and
beating children to death in the street.
Al Ghurabaa and the Saved Sect
are made illegal organisations, mid-2006.
But re-form under other names.
Al Ghurabaa / Saved Sect members jailed for cartoon demo, July 2007
- Mizanur Rahman, Umran Javed and Abdul Muhid
each got 6 years for soliciting to murder.
Abdul Saleem got 4 years for inciting racial hatred
(he chanted: "7/7 on its way",
and: "Europe, you will pay with your blood").
If you think it is "racist" to ask why
these people are living in Britain,
listen to moderate Muslims who agree:
"If you want sharia, then go and ask for it in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan."
"If they want to live under an Islamic caliphate,
they should take this idea to Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, and go and create it over there."
Reaction to the riots
Democracy in a Cartoon
by the hero Ibn Warraq
- "Freedom of expression is our western heritage and we must defend it
or it will die from totalitarian attacks. It is also much needed in the Islamic world.".
Victor Davis Hanson
"The radical Islamists are our generation's book burners
who search for secular Galileos and Newtons.
They are the new Nazi censors who sniff out anything favorable to the Jews.
These fundamentalists are akin to the Soviet commissars who once decreed all art must serve political struggle
- or else.
If we give in to these 8th-century clerics, shortly we will be living in an 8th century ourselves,
where we may say, hear, and do nothing that might offend a fundamentalist Muslim"
The Belgian philosopher
has the right idea.
- Cartoons of the prophet should be printed every week
"so that Muslims could get used to the idea".
and UN have shown (yet again)
that they do not know what freedom of speech means
and cannot be trusted on this issue (as on so many others).
As LGF says,
"Don't look now, but backbones seem to be springing up all over Europe":
German Papers Print Mohammed Cartoons.
The German paper
"There is no right to protection from satire in the West; there is a right to blasphemy."
The dissident frogman:
"for the first time in years, I have the slight hope that Europe might finally wake up.
They want to fight us, on what is without a doubt a pillar of Western civilization?
They want to deprive us from freedom of speech, a concept we invented 2,500 years ago,
improved and expanded ever since?
An idea for which we did not hesitate to pay the highest price,
and which we defended against foes far more formidable and lethal than them?
So be it."
Sorry Norway and Denmark (sorrynorwaydenmark.com)
"In the middle of all the mayhem surrounding the Danish cartoons controversy,
a group of Arab and Muslim youth have set up this website to express their honest opinion,
as a small attempt to show the world that the images shown of Arab and Muslim anger around the world
are not representative of the opinions of all Arabs.
We whole-heartedly apologize to the people of Denmark, Norway and all the European Union
over the actions of a few, and we completely condemn all forms of vandalism and incitement to violence
that the Arab and Muslim world have witnessed."
They are offended by the cartoons (no problem with that)
but want to respond like westerners respond when offended.
Nice, apart from the irrelevant stuff about the Palestinians:
"There is a strong tradition of friendship and cooperation between the Norwegian and Danish people
and Arab people. Of most note is the continued support that these governments give
to the Palestinian people in their struggle for freedom and liberation,
and the brave stance that these governments have often taken to defend Palestinian rights."
Bringing in an irrelevant and controversial question like this wrecks the idea of their site.
They should remove it.
There is no evidence that the Palestinian people are struggling for
"freedom and liberation".
If they were, they would support secular liberal democrats,
not groups like Hamas and Fatah
that will establish
a standard Arab Islamic tyranny
to rule over them.
The fact is,
the Palestinians are struggling to set up a tyranny.
on why they published the cartoons:
"Equal treatment is the democratic way to overcome traditional barriers of blood and soil
To me, that means treating immigrants just as I would any other Danes.
And that's what I felt I was doing in publishing the 12 cartoons of Mohammed last year.
Those images in no way exceeded the bounds of taste, satire, and humor to which I would subject
any other Dane, whether the queen, the head of the church, or the prime minister.
By treating a Muslim figure the same way I would a Christian or Jewish icon,
I was sending an important message:
You are not strangers, you are here to stay,
and we accept you as an integrated part of our life. And we will satirize you, too.
It was an act of inclusion, not exclusion;
an act of respect and recognition."
Media geopolitics of the Mohammed cartoons
- A survey of which newspapers around the world published the Mohammed cartoons.
A barometer of how free different parts of the world are
to criticise and satirise religion.
The third-world fascist's name is
Muhudiin Mohamed Geele.
He was lucky enough to move at age 14 from the dirt-poor Islamic hellhole of Somalia to the
rich secular paradise of Denmark
and this is how he responds!
Talk about pissing your life away for nothing.
10 years in prison.
After that he will be deported back to the Islamic hellhole of Somalia.
When attacked by a jihadi,
he abandoned his 5-year-old grand-daughter to possible torture and death,
and ran to a safe room.
OK, who knows what any of us would do when faced with terror.
But it's hardly a heroic story.
Alleged Norway terror plot by Muslim immigrants.
The immigrants are from China, Iraq and Uzbekistan.
Arrests in July 2010.
Rusty Shackleford notes the hypocrisy of these immigrants:
"All three are immigrants who fled their repressive countries, only to come to the West only to demand that we become as repressive as the countries they fled."
Woman disables anti-Islam websites, report 18 Aug 2011. Female Saudi Arabian terrorist Nouf Rashid claims credit for
"destroying 23 Danish websites that denigrated the Prophet Muhammad".
This vile woman is studying in the United States.
She is an enemy of the US.
The US should jail her.
After death threats,
she goes into hiding
and the Dutch museum removes the exhibit.
understands the Enlightenment:
"Works of art can be provocative.
It is not an artist's job just to paint flowers.
Art should shine a light on social issues."
So does Wouter Bos,
the deputy prime minister:
"In a democracy, we do not recognise the right not to be insulted."
says she has "no regrets".
"I do it for them, for the boys and girls with no freedom in Iran."
South Park nicely shows how mature all the other religions are:
Muhammad has to be censored entirely, because of the threat of Islamic violence,
but in "200", Jesus has "Jesus Fucking Christ!" said to his face,
and they have a classic scene with Buddha doing coke.
In "201", Jesus again complains about Buddha doing coke,
and Buddha retorts that Jesus is watching Internet porn.
Douglas Murray, 19 Apr 2010, says of the South Park episode:
"they make the point about the absurd self-censorship and thuggish intimidation surrounding the Islamic faith better than anything else I've seen."
the Comedy Central channel
apparently bleeped out
entire monologues by Kyle, Jesus and Santa.
Classic scene from South Park episode "200":
"Boys! You need to understand that people get very offended when Muhammad is mocked,
because he's a religious figure."
[Cut to Buddha sitting at the table gratuitously snorting cocaine.]
Jesus: "Buddha! Don't do coke in front of kids!"
[Discussion at the table continues.]
Zach Chesser pleaded guilty in Oct 2010 to
threatening the writers of South Park,
encouraging Islamists to desensitize law enforcement with false alarms,
and attempting to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization.
Neil H. MacBride, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, said:
"Zachary Chesser seriously endangered the lives of innocent people who will remain at risk for many years to come.
His solicitation of extremists to murder U.S. citizens also caused people throughout the country to fear speaking out - even in jest - lest they also be labeled as enemies who deserved to be killed. In admitting his guilt today, Mr. Chesser reminded us of the serious threat homegrown jihadists pose to this country".
Cohen gets 2.5 years. Sentenced April 2014.
The Jawa Report refers to
"the now completely incarcerated staff at Revolution Muslim".
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
the South Park death threats
with Anderson Cooper
At the end, she makes the optimistic point
that if the western world stands together
in support of people like her, and artists like South Park,
and there is more and more global criticism of Islam
over the coming years,
then eventually we will reach a "tipping point"
where there will be too many people to threaten,
and Muslims will give up,
just as Christians have given up.
When there are a thousand Ayaan Hirsi Alis,
then Ayaan Hirsi Ali will finally be safe.
That is what the world needs.
Islam - The only religion that
can't take a joke.
The world's most intolerant religion.
Bruce Crumley, TIME's French correspondent, 2 Nov 2011, blames the rape victim.
He says it is
"hard to have much sympathy for the French satirical newspaper firebombed this morning, after it published another stupid and totally unnecessary edition mocking Islam."
Rape is caused by skimpy dress.
And Islamic bombings are caused by blasphemy.
Perfect, perfect response to Crumley in the comments:
"This article is so offensive, someone might firebomb Time. Don't get upset though, they asked for it."
Responses to Crumley:
Can we torch Time Magazine’s offices now?, Nick Cohen, 4 Nov 2011.
"what possible argument can those of us who shudder at the thought of arsonists torching Time .. now make in its defence? The latest issue contains a piece [which] is worth studying because its author seems to be trying to provide a defence for anyone who attacks his own company’s premises."
Robert Spencer replies to Crumley, 3 Nov 2011:
"The huge, gaping hole in his argument, however, is that he is making it after Muslims reacted violently to satire. Judaism and Christianity are lampooned on a regular basis, but [arguments like Crumley's are not made]. So Crumley's argument boils down to saying that we should capitulate in the face of violent intimidation. This is not really about being sensitive. It is about doing what the thugs want so they won't hurt us again.
I'd rather die first."
James Kirchick, 4 Nov 2011:
"Crumley, who would make an excellent propaganda commissar in Uzbekistan or Iran, chided French politicians for “denouncing the arson as an attack on freedom of speech, liberty of expression, and other rights central to French and other Western societies,” which is exactly what it was."
The editor of Charlie Hebdo says:
"We have the impression that it’s officially allowed for Charlie Hebdo to attack the Catholic far-right but we cannot poke fun at fundamental Islamists.
Muhammad isn’t sacred to me.
I live under French law; I don’t live under Koranic law."
Members of the
don't like this photo
of their founder
But in contrast to Muslims,
they do not threaten violence if unbelievers do it.
The Bahá'í Faith
is clearly morally superior
Office of Public Information
about the photo being displayed on websites:
"it is indeed disturbing to Bahá'ís to have the image of Bahá'u'lláh treated in such a disrespectful way. However, as the creator of the site is not a Bahá'í, there is little, if anything, that can be done to address this matter."
The idea of suicide bombing innocents doesn't even occur to them!
Could you imagine if Islam was so reasonable?
The Bahá'í Faith
is clearly morally superior