Northern Ireland
The solution to Northern Ireland
and the Balkans
and every conflict in the world is the same:
Every country in the world
should be an ultra-neutral, secular, ultra-liberal democracy.
A nation should not stand for a
common heritage or beliefs. This is an evil idea
that has caused unending misery through history.
Why am I writing about this?
These pages are just here for self-expression.
I like to be able to work out my thoughts on "paper".
I'm not a campaigner on any issues - I don't have time.
See why these pages are here.
Also, I'm from Southern Ireland.
And I'm an atheist.
So I am a member of a
4 percent minority
in the South
(actually the largest minority in the South).
Now we can begin.
Introduction
This page started as an annex to the
anti-censorship page,
back when censorship was considered part of the solution to the Northern Irish problem
(remember those days?).
Well those days are gone, hopefully forever.
It seems that we have a solution now
which at least has the capability of stabilising the situation.
If everyone holds their nerve,
then Ireland, North and South,
can look forward to an unprecedented era of peace and prosperity.
If we are attracted to the old certainties of the past,
then the war will begin again.
The (original) Irish Problem
Should Southern Ireland be independent at all?
- It is such a cliché that Ireland was an abused colony,
and indeed most Irish people think of the past as "colonial",
that it is sometimes a shock to realise that Ireland was not meant to be regarded as a colony at all,
but as part of the nation.
The nineteenth century is full of well-meaning attempts to make Ireland look
as much a part of the national landscape as Scotland.
And, in an alternate history, it could have worked.
Even as late as 1900, the UK might still have been saved.
For Ireland really was (and still is) a fundamental part of English and UK history,
in a way that many Irish people deny.
Irish blood has flowed in the veins
of many people, from the English Royal family downwards,
who have shaped the past and present of the English state.
Henry VIII,
Elizabeth I,
James I,
William of Orange,
Charles James Fox,
Queen Victoria,
Lord John Russell,
Lord Frederick Cavendish,
Arthur Balfour,
Winston Churchill,
Sir Anthony Eden,
Sir Alec Douglas-Home,
Lord Cranborne,
David Cameron,
Queen Elizabeth II,
Prince Charles,
Lord Mountbatten,
Princess Diana,
Sarah Ferguson,
Camilla Parker-Bowles
- all of them descend from Brian Boru.
Every English monarch from Henry IV (whose reign started in 1399) to the present day
descends from Brian Boru.
The future monarch,
Prince William, descends from
Pope Felix V.
In the north,
Terence O'Neill,
Harold McCusker
and
Ken Maginnis
are obviously Irish
in their ancestry.
(Terence O'Neill descends
from the great Irish house of O'Neill, Kings of Ulster,
through a female line.)
And English blood has always flowed in the veins of
Ireland's great families, including many of its great rebels.
Garret Mor Fitzgerald,
Garret Og Fitzgerald,
Silken Thomas,
The rebel Earl of Desmond,
The rebel Earl of Tyrone,
Lord Edward Fitzgerald,
Robert Emmet,
William Smith O'Brien,
Charles Stewart Parnell
- all of them descend from the British Royal Family.
Daniel O'Connell may also have a Royal Descent.
Even
early 20th century Sinn Fein supporters
have had Royal Descents.
And in the north,
Gerry Adams, Bobby Sands and John Hume are obviously British
in their ancestry.
Of course, in Ireland,
all of our ancestors in every line
came from Britain, if you trace the lines back far enough
(except for the very small number that came direct from the Continent).
The UK could have worked,
but the whole population had to be brought on board
as first class citizens.
The Catholic majority of the Irish population
had spent the 19th century recovering
from their dispossession,
the theft of their land,
and the long systematic denial of Catholic rights to property,
education and professional membership
- and, when they finally reached the middle class,
voted immediately for Home Rule and, eventually,
for independence.
The 19th century failure to save the Union
To keep the Irish middle class
would have required radical change in the nature of the UK,
and that was never going to happen.
It is important to re-iterate that
although Britain invented democracy (along with France and America),
British rule in Ireland was not democratic.
The Irish never voted to join the Union,
and when they were, years later, finally allowed the vote,
they voted again and again to leave.
But they could not vote to leave -
they had to wait until parliament deigned to allow them to go.
The first democratic (large numbers of voters, all religions, secret ballot)
election in Ireland
was held in 1874,
the first chance that the natives
ever had
in 300 years
to say what kind of society they wanted.
It was a triumph for democracy after centuries of coercion.
And the will of the people was quite clear and understood.
It should have been a final, peaceful end to
the long sordid story of disenfranchisement.
But instead, needless to say,
the results of that election, and all subsequent elections
in the following 50 years,
were now ignored and overruled by London,
as if they had never taken place.
Having been finally granted the vote by their superiors,
the Irish people now found that the vote was useless.
Today, Northern Ireland is promised that if there is ever a majority vote
for a United Ireland, the UK will not stop them leaving.
Southern Ireland was never granted such a promise.
Indeed, quite the opposite.
There was, and they did.
Finally, only by the violence of the
1919-21 IRA
could the democratic will of the people,
expressed in elections for decades, be finally implemented.
- The Famine, 1845-50
- The Famine
is the defining moment in the history of Anglo-Irish relations.
The fact that this could occur
in what was then
the richest country in the world
is all you have to say really, to justify Irish independence.
- How could capitalism cause a famine?
How could a famine occur in
a democracy?
How could a famine occur in
the richest country in the world?
- The late 19th cent - early 20th cent
- On the other hand,
Geary and Stark,
The Economic Journal
(also here),
Volume 112, Issue 482, 2002,
argue that the Famine was largely irrelevant history
by the end of the 19th century,
when Ireland was booming due to Britain's imperial boom.
They
estimate that:
- Ireland was the 7th richest country in the world in 1871.
Britain was 1st.
- Ireland was the 11th richest country in the world in 1911.
- Ireland went into an economic slump after
(i.e. caused by)
independence,
and fell far down the world ranking.
It never achieved this
(you might say its natural)
world ranking
again until the
Celtic Tiger of the 1990s.
- The 19th century - western imperialism
-
Self-determination and democracy
are only means to an end.
What is important is:
(a) prosperity, and:
(b) a free society, with human rights and civil liberties.
By this standard, Ireland's independence
was a backward step,
because:
(a) Ireland became poorer,
and:
(b) Ireland became less free
as Catholic law was introduced.
The 20th century tragedy of independence
Ireland's independence was in many ways a mess.
It caused the Civil War,
the
destruction of the Public Record Office,
partition,
a sectarian Catholic state in the South,
and a sectarian Protestant state in the North.
But it was
made inevitable because
no serious attempt was made to reform the UK
to stop nationalists leaving.
In particular, it was
made inevitable because
the
extremists in London
consistently refused to allow the much more modest
idea of Home Rule
within the United Kingdom.
Just as 30 years of war in the North
have happened
because the extremists there have refused to allow the much more modest
idea of Catholics sharing power within the UK.
Modern sister states
The Irish problem has always been, and is today,
basically a simple problem,
about the nature of
disenfranchisement.
The problem lasts as long as the disenfranchisement lasts.
The question of nationality is only secondary
(as is shown by nationalist enthusiasm for the latest,
partitionist, settlement).
Having your own nation may or may not be a good way
of achieving a free and equal society.
You may trade the hostility, prejudice and thoughtlessness
of your foreign rulers
for a new set of home-grown,
tribal majoritarian oppressions,
as southern Ireland did for many years.
But everything has come out right for it now.
It is a proper liberal democracy,
where everybody is a first-class citizen -
even atheists like me.
It has abandoned the insane ideas of protectionism
and self-sufficiency,
and embraced global capitalism,
becoming one of the richest countries in the world,
with strong ties to America and Europe.
It can even begin to think again of Britain as its "sister country"
without recoiling from the term.
History and Politics
Religion and Culture
Protestants argue with Catholics, but -
far from one of them being correct -
Christianity itself isn't true.
Even worse, theism itself isn't true.
Protestantism v. Catholicism is an argument about entirely imaginary
beings and events.
- Philosophy
- Atheism (what is actually true)
- Theism
(an interesting idea, but unfortunately false)
- Popular holidays in Ireland and the UK:
- Guy Fawkes Day
(celebrates the crushing of the Catholic rebellion for equal rights and civil liberties in 1605,
and the torture and execution of Fawkes).
- St.Patrick's Day
(celebrates the destruction of Ireland's native paganism
and its replacement with an equally untrue, but much more violent, religion from the Middle East).
- The Twelfth of July
(celebrates the end of Catholic and Irish civil liberties for the next hundred years).
See 1688-91 period.
It's typical of the ambiguous nature of the development of English democracy
that the
Glorious Revolution
actually ushered in the greatest
denial of civil liberties
that the Catholics and Irish have ever known.
Claims of the autocracy of Popes or of King James
ring hollow
when compared to what actually happened to the Catholics.
The immediate future is one in which power-sharing will finally work,
in which Catholics will occupy many of the most powerful positions in the state,
and as a result will begin to identify, at least for the time being, with that state
for the first time.
It is important to realise that
Catholics in Northern Ireland have never had a share in the
governance of their own country.
Not just, not in the last 30 years.
But never.
In 400 years.
Majority-rule is not democracy,
and majority-rule must never be allowed to return to Northern Ireland.
The long-term future of the North is probably with (a reformed) Ireland
rather than with Britain.
Why? Because Britain emotionally abandoned Northern Ireland long ago,
regarding it more as a "white man's burden" than as part of their country to be defended.
The inability of the Ulster unionist to win the hearts and minds of Britain
is shown in polls where
more people in Britain are in favour
of leaving Ireland than staying
(see survey, 21st Aug 2001).
Ireland, in contrast, has made no such abandonment,
and continues to regard Northern nationalists as fellow countrymen.
Northern nationalists have a country, and always have had one.
It is Northern unionists who are stateless,
and only a power-sharing future with their fellow Northern nationalists can construct a country to which they can belong again.
Indeed, I predict that if there ever is a majority vote for a united Ireland,
that power-sharing will still not end.
First, to provide security for unionists,
but secondly,
because nationalists, having tasted power and worked successfully with the unionists,
may not want to give up power to Dublin either.
Whether within Ireland or the UK,
power-sharing Home Rule for Ulster will continue forever.
- The majority-minority situation is changing:
- 2003 survey
- Catholic and Protestant
do not fall into the same rigid categories that they used to.
- Wishes:
- Only 49 percent of Catholics want a United Ireland.
- 21 percent of Catholics want to stay in the UK.
- 5 percent of Protestants want a United Ireland.
- National identity:
- 12 percent of Catholics regard themselves as "British".
- Political identity:
- Only 60 percent of Catholics regard themselves as "Nationalist".
- Only 68 percent of Protestants regard themselves as "Unionist".
- Voting:
Despite the above interesting signs, almost no Catholics or Protestants crossed
sectarian party lines in voting:
- Only 1 percent of Catholics voted UUP.
- Only 1 percent of Catholics voted DUP.
- Only 1 percent of Protestants voted SDLP.
- 0 percent of Protestants voted Sinn Fein.
By voters' religion, Sinn Fein is the most sectarian of the 4 main parties,
all of which are sectarian.
- The Peace Process
(and here)
-
Welcoming unionists to the family of democracy
by John Waters, The Irish Times, 29 May 2000.
- For nationalists, this partitionist settlement
is about building a modern, liberal, ultra-neutral state
that everyone can belong to.
This is what every country in the world should be anyway.
- The Peace Process has been painfully slow,
but so far the optimists have been right.
The republicans really are willing to compromise.
They have stopped the war, even if they haven't stopped violence against their own
community.
The unionists really are willing to compromise.
They are willing to share power with Catholics,
even if they don't express any enthusiasm about it
and rarely seem to have a positive vision for the future.
There's a long way to go, and it's time for republicans to end the
violence
and join an agreed police force.
But isn't this better than the war?
- Political freedom
There are more than 2 peoples on this island.
A growing number of people are rejecting the entire
Catholic-Protestant identity.
Census figures:
- The Republic
- 1991 census
(also here)
- This has:
- total population 3,525,719
- "no religion" 66,270 (1.88 percent)
- agnostic 823
- atheist 320
- humanists etc. hidden under "other" 2,197
This gives a total of at least 1.91 percent "no religion".
Even if every single one
of the 2,197
"other" was actually an unbeliever,
it would only bring the total up to 1.97 percent.
So to the nearest percent,
as at 1991, Ireland was 2 percent "no religion".
- 2002 census
- This has:
- total population 3,917,203
- "no religion" 138,264 (3.53 percent)
- agnostic 1028
- atheist 500
- humanists etc. hidden under "other" 8,920
This gives a total of at least 3.57 percent "no religion".
Even if every single one
of the 8,920
"other" was actually an unbeliever,
it would only bring the total up to 3.80 percent.
So to the nearest percent,
Ireland is now 4 percent "no religion".
This is now larger than the Church of Ireland,
and is now the 2nd largest
religious grouping
in the South, after Catholicism.
- NI
-
1991 census
(also here)
- This has:
- total population 1,577,836
- "no religion" 59,234 (3.7 percent)
- atheist, agnostic, humanist, etc.
hidden under "other" 79,129
Assuming that the vast majority of unbelievers wrote "no religion",
then to the nearest percent,
as at 1991, NI was 4 percent "no religion".
The figure has probably changed a lot since though.
- 2001 census
(or
here or
here or
here)
- There is no figure at all for "no religion"
in the initial results
since it lumps together "no religion" and "no answer":
-
2005 study by
Prof. Ian McAllister
claims
NI is now 11.5 percent "no religion".
The Republic of Ireland
is now economically free and prosperous.
- In favour of capitalism
-
Why Ireland Boomed,
James B. Burnham,
The Independent Review, Spring 2003.
- He argues that EU money was a minor factor in Ireland's boom,
and that it was caused by an embrace of the market
- almost by chance rather than by ideology
- plus a number of lucky external factors.
- He discusses in particular
the state monopolies in
telecoms
and
air flight
and how they crippled the Irish economy
until they were (thankfully) broken.
-
How Ireland Became the Celtic Tiger
by Sean Dorgan, Chief Executive of the IDA.
- "For a generation after achieving independence from the United Kingdom in 1922,
Ireland sought to be economically self-sufficient. It relied on small-scale agriculture,
exporting primary produce to the U.K. market and manufacturing mainly for the home market
of less than 3 million people. Trade barriers such as high tariffs
and a policy of import substitution sought to make this reliance on economic nationalism successful.
Inevitably, it failed."
- He considers the origin of Irish prosperity to be
T.K. Whitaker
and his landmark paper, Economic Development,
in 1958.
- The Republic of Ireland is now
in the top 5 most economically free countries in the world:
- The Republic of Ireland is now
in the top 5 richest countries in the world:
- Not only is it richer than Northern Ireland,
it is richer than the UK
and possibly even richer than the US.
- GDP
- The Stockholm Network
- Irish organisations
- David McWilliams
has an interesting idea for Ireland's future
- open up the right to live and work here to the world-wide Irish diaspora.
Indeed, why not open up Ireland to all
of the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand,
and maybe also places like Hong Kong, South Korea and Israel.
Let the best, brightest, most energetic and best-integrating
immigrants of the world come here.
The Republic has abandoned two major
principles of the revolutionary Irish (de Valera) state:
(a) a Catholic state, and:
(b) protectionist, self-sufficient,
nationalised-industry economics.
It is now
secular, and
capitalist.
Now is time to abandon a third principle:
(c) neutrality.
It is time for the Republic to become
a formal ally of Britain (and the US).
In the Iraq War,
the brave decision
of the Fianna Fail / PD government
to keep Shannon Airport (and other Irish airfields and airspace)
open to the Allies,
even in the absence of a UN resolution,
was a welcome step in this direction.
In the future we should
go further and declare Ireland a formal ally
of Britain and America.
- The Reform Movement
- The Irish Association
(formerly here)
- The British-Irish Council
- Institute for British-Irish Studies
- Irish Unionist Alliance
- TCD Unionists
- Irish Unionist
- A liberal, secular unionist.
- Ireland going back to the UK is not an option,
but it is certainly time for it to join
NATO
and become a formal political and military ally of the UK.
-
Irish Seamen's Relatives Association
-
Royal British Legion
- British Embassy
- Real-life modern Irish heroes:
- Lieutenant-Colonel
Tim Collins,
from Northern Ireland.
- His pre-war speech
- "The enemy should be in no doubt that we are his nemesis and that we are bringing about his rightful destruction. There are many regional commanders who have stains on
their souls and they are stoking the fires of hell for Saddam. He and his forces will be destroyed by this coalition for what they have done. As they die, they will know their
deeds have brought them to this place."
- It should be noted that Tim Collins has since become
negative and defeatist.
-
Since when has
the Republic's military
ever liberated anyone?
They are peacekeepers, and a police force.
They have done much noble and heroic work
(e.g. defending the state against the IRA).
But the politicians
will not allow them actually
fight with our democratic allies.
- UNIFIL
in the Lebanon
is the only engagement of the Irish army that I think is actually
harmful and should stop.
-
UNIFIL do not help the IDF fight Hezbollah.
They do not help disarm Hezbollah.
They give cover for Hezbollah re-arming and embedding their missiles and weaponry in Lebanese villages.
They restrict IDF operations against Hezbollah.
-
UNIFIL are harmful and should be disbanded.
The Irish army force
should be brought home from the Lebanon.
No brave Irish soldier should risk his life for the UN's false political view
of the Israel-Lebanon situation.
I support the IDF in Lebanon.
I don't support the UN mission.
It should be shut down, and all UN troops should leave.
- The Anglosphere
-
An Anglosphere Primer,
introductory article by James C. Bennett.
- The future for Ireland lies with Britain and America.
- The book
The Anglosphere Challenge:
Why the English-Speaking Nations Will Lead the Way in the Twenty-First Century,
James C. Bennett, 2004.
-
The Empire of Freedom: Where the United States Belongs: The Anglosphere,
by Ramesh
Ponnuru, National Review, March 24, 2003.
- How the English-speaking blogosphere is bringing the Anglosphere together.
- The Anglosphere Institute
-
I would prefer Ireland to be linked to the Anglosphere
than to
the EU
or
the UN.
-
Post-colonial U.N. crutch
by James C. Bennett
describes how I feel about the past and future of Ireland:
- "It was natural for countries emerging from colonialism to a shaky independence to turn to their U.N. memberships as a source of pride, legitimacy, and often scarce revenue.
... However, the next generation rising up in the nations of the wider Anglosphere, like India, are beginning to take a less romanticized view of their fathers' commitments. Taking their independence for granted, they are able to contemplate closer ties to America and renewed cooperation with Britain on their own merits,
more free from the burden of past events."
- "Often Anglosphere ties in these nations are the tolerant, outward-looking, freedom-oriented option, in contrast to more inward-looking nationalistic visions based on Continental European-style blood-and-soil ethnic nationalism."
- In other words, the future for Ireland
is not Sinn Fein nationalism and UN third-worldism,
but rather Ireland as an independent, respected,
trustworthy ally of Britain and America.
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Ireland should join the US, the UK and Australia
in the Anglosphere.
While we're at it, maybe our flag should change too.
The
Tricolour
is supposed to symbolise two tribal, sectarian traditions
and a pious declaration of "peace" between them.
It is a symbol of division if anything.
And the unionists have never been impressed by this declaration of "peace".
I suggest we get rid of it and adopt
St Patrick's Cross
or (my favourite) the
Presidential standard.
Flags from fg-a.com.
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