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Scepticism - Anti-Green


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Anti-Green page

OK so I'm not anti-Green in the sense that I want to pave the whole world. I believe very much in preserving life on earth (and indeed spreading it to the stars). It's just that it should all be based on science, not emotion.

I'm against most things the Greens say about biotech, agriculture, genetics and medicine. Much of it is provably false. The Green movement is largely a movement that does not believe in science and reason, and often even explicitly rejects it.

I'm sceptical about their claims of looming apocalypse due to climate change or population growth. The threat of apocalypse due to nuclear-armed communism seemed real to me. Apocalypse due to nuclear-armed Islamism, or other future tyranny, seems real to me. Apocalypse due to peaceful consumerism seems far-fetched. There might be climate change issues in the future, but whether they will be apocalyptic I am not yet convinced. We shall see.

I'm against almost everything the Greens say about economics, trade, war, terror and international politics. That's because it's just standard socialist nonsense.

I very much support preserving old buildings, and preserving old streetscapes, and preserving endangered species, but I'm afraid that much of the other things the Greens campaign for leave me cold. Many of the Green campaigns look to me driven by a fear of wealth, science, technology and knowledge, and a preference for mysticism, ignorance and New Age mumbo-jumbo.





Wind farm destroys the environment at the ancient Stirling Castle in Scotland.
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This is real destruction of the environment, as opposed to the imaginary or theoretical destruction of the environment that the wind farm is meant to save us from.




Medicine



Agriculture


Since the banning of DDT in 1972:

people

have died from malaria.

From the Malaria Death Clock.
The green movement has already killed millions of people.




Population




Forced abortion and forced sterilization in China.





Global warming (separate page)





Other issues




Environmental sceptics




JunkScience.com




Environmentalism (separate page)




Optimism

The radical green worldview is profoundly depressing. It says that to save the planet, people in the West must live guiltier, thriftier, poorer lives. That we should feel guilty about what we have. And that bringing the third world up to western standards of living may be impossible. Much of it sounds like an old-fashioned, guilt-ridden religion.

So what's the alternative? The wonderful alternative to green poverty is that we use our fantastic human brains, and our ever-improving science and technology, to make the entire world rich and comfortable like us, while preserving (and even improving) the planet. I'm sure we can do it.

Science, democracy and capitalism will save both the planet and the third world.





The optimistic alternative to green socialism and poverty is that we use our fantastic science and technology to make the entire world rich like us, while preserving (and even improving) the planet.
Hat tip John Connolly.
Possibly invented here.




Theodore Dalrymple has a nice line on how green theory is both incredibly speculative (with a weak track record so far of successful predictions) and yet incredibly arrogant (it almost wants its critics banned or prosecuted):
"though Monbiot says that it is uncertain that anything we do now will make any difference, he nevertheless proposes that every human being on the earth follow his prescriptions."





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