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Anti-Green page

OK so I'm not anti-Green in the sense that I want to pave the whole world. I believe very much in preserving life on earth (and indeed spreading it to the stars). It's just that it should all be based on science, not emotion.

I'm against most things the Greens say about biotech, agriculture, genetics and medicine. Much of it is provably false. The Green movement is largely a movement that does not believe in science and reason, and often even explicitly rejects it.

I'm sceptical about their claims of looming apocalypse due to climate change or population growth. The threat of apocalypse due to nuclear-armed communism seemed real to me. Apocalypse due to nuclear-armed Islamism, or other future tyranny, seems real to me. Apocalypse due to peaceful consumerism seems far-fetched. There might be climate change issues in the future, but whether they will be apocalyptic I am not yet convinced. We shall see.

I'm against almost everything the Greens say about economics, trade, war, terror and international politics. That's because it's just standard socialist nonsense.

I'm big into preserving old buildings, and preserving endangered species, but I'm afraid that much of the other things the Greens campaign for leave me cold. Many of the Green campaigns look to me driven by a fear of wealth, science, technology and knowledge, and a preference for mysticism, ignorance and New Age mumbo-jumbo.





UK temperature since 1659.
Are we simply warming up after the Little Ice Age (16th cent to 19th cent),
and returning to something like the Medieval Warm Period (10th cent to 14th cent),
or is it something more sinister?



Temperature in C from Greenland ice core.
It does show a recent warming, but one that started in the early 19th century,
and also a modest one compared to the Medieval Warm Period,
which itself is modest compared to earlier historical warm periods.



Temperature in C from Greenland ice core.
Years in AD along bottom axis.
Modern warming compared to Medieval Warm Period.
Note however: The Medieval Warm Period may have been just a local event (in the North Atlantic region).




Medicine



Agriculture


Since the banning of DDT in 1972:

people

have died from malaria.

From the Malaria Death Clock.
The green movement has already killed millions of people.




Global issues



Global warming



Average global temperature

Looking at the actual figures for average global temperature may give you a surprise.


Changing the Y-range

You can obviously mislead with the Y-range.


The last decade

There was a record high in 1998, and since then temperature has stayed around this level rather than rising further.



Natural disasters

There is a claim that natural disasters are getting worse because of climate change. There is very little evidence for this.



Some data in response to Obama's UN speech above notes that deaths from storms, floods and droughts have not increased.
If the Greens lie about this, it is hard to totally trust them on more opaque topics such as temperature and sea level.




Environmental sceptics



JunkScience.com




Environmentalism (separate page)




Optimism

The radical green worldview is profoundly depressing. It says that to save the planet, people in the West must live guiltier, thriftier, poorer lives. That we should feel guilty about what we have. And that bringing the third world up to western standards of living may be impossible. Much of it sounds like an old-fashioned, guilt-ridden religion.

So what's the alternative? The wonderful alternative to green poverty is that we use our fantastic human brains, and our ever-improving science and technology, to make the entire world rich and comfortable like us, while preserving (and even improving) the planet. I'm sure we can do it.

Science, democracy and capitalism will save both the planet and the third world.




Theodore Dalrymple has a nice line on how green theory is both incredibly speculative (with a weak track record so far of successful predictions) and yet incredibly arrogant (it almost wants its critics banned or prosecuted):
"though Monbiot says that it is uncertain that anything we do now will make any difference, he nevertheless proposes that every human being on the earth follow his prescriptions."



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