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Israel - Israeli-Palestinian conflict


  The existence of Israel

Refugees

Reference

The Palestinian nation was invented

Why do people support the Palestinians?

War crimes

The Israeli wall

Gaza

Lebanon

The future


The Israeli-Palestinian conflict

There is a political case on both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Both sides do have grievances that need to be addressed. It is very hard though to sympathise with the Palestinians because of: (a) their absurd and immoral goals (destroying Israel, setting up an Islamic state), and: (b) their immoral conduct of the war (deliberately killing civilians).





The resting place of evil.
Yasser Arafat Mausoleum, in Arafat's Compound, Ramallah, West Bank.
See full size. From here.
Search for more public domain images here and here and here.




The existence of Israel

A few points in defence of the existence of Israel:
  1. When Israel was set up in 1947, the area designated was a clear majority Jewish area (538,000 Jews and 397,000 Arabs). See here and here (or via here).
  2. This UN report in 1947 gave 498,000 Jews and 407,000 Arabs - but still a Jewish majority.
  3. This Jewish majority had developed peacefully (not through warfare) over the previous 70 years.
  4. Setting this area up as a state was reasonable because: (a) the Jews (the majority in the area) wanted it, and: (b) the state would be a free democracy, whereas the alternative was dhimmi status within some standard Arab Muslim tyranny.
  5. Setting up this area as a state does not need to be justified by "making up" for the crimes of the Holocaust (with the Palestinians paying for European crimes). It was nothing to do with the Holocaust at all. The area was majority-Jewish already, and had become so peacefully over the previous 70 years, with no Palestinians evicted by force. This area in 1947 had a right to self-determination, totally independent of the Holocaust.
  6. I see nothing wrong with setting up the majority-Jewish area as Israel in 1947, therefore. Whether it was sensible for Jews fleeing persecution to go to the Middle East in the first place, however - as opposed, say, to America - is another question. Apparently (though I'd like to see a bit more context), Lord Curzon, British Foreign Secretary 1919-24, said about the idea of the Jews going to live in the Middle East: "I cannot think of a worse fate for an advanced and intellectual community".
  7. Still, once brave, embattled democrats are in the Middle East, it is our duty to support them against non-democrats.
  8. The Arabs rejected this state purely because it was Jewish. Had it been just another Muslim group, a separate state would have been accepted without controversy. But it was intolerable to allow the dhimmis to set up a state. Even worse, one in which dhimmis would rule over some Muslims. This problem - and nothing else - is the root cause of the conflict.

Hence for the future:

  1. No solution that allows the existence of a Jewish (or any non-Muslim) state in any form can possibly end the conflict.
  2. The only thing that will end the conflict is a change of mind by the Arabs, such that they will tolerate the existence of a non-Muslim state, and non-Muslims in general. The root cause of the conflict is, and always has been, Muslim bigotry.


The left and the existence of Israel:




A traitor to the West:
Englishman Sir John Glubb, commander of the Arab Legion 1939-56 in its wars against Israel.
All Westerners should defend Israel, because it is a democracy.
Photo from here.




Palestinian refugees (1948), Jewish refugees (1948) and German refugees (1945)

Immediately after the declaration of the State of Israel in 1948, a combined Arab army of Egyptian, Syrian, Iraqi, Jordanian, and Lebanese forces invaded to try to destroy the dhimmi state and exterminate the Jews. Israel - because it is based on western principles of freedom rather than pre-scientific tribalism - managed not only to beat the combined Arab armies but in fact expanded its territory.




The 60 year long oppression of Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, Syria and Jordan.
From FreeMiddleEast.com.



How many western leftists even know about the ethnic cleansing of the Jews?
See full size. From here.



How come all refugees in the world have been absorbed, except for one group?
See full size. From here.



End Jordanian apartheid!



A lost world: Iraqi Jews in 1932 at Ezekiel's Tomb in Iraq.
From here.



A lost world: BAGDAD in the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica.
Baghdad was 1/4 Jewish in 1911.




Reference



"The notion that the Palestinians want to rule themselves, that they could do it successfully, that they really accept a two-state solution is one of the most grotesque deceptions ever foisted on the West. Alas, the entire conflict centers around the Palestinian/Arab/Muslim need to restore their lost honor by destroying that which has humiliated them, the autonomous Jewish state in the heart of Dar al Islam."
- Richard Landes sums up the right-wing view of the Israel conflict, which contrasts dramatically with the left-wing view that the Palestinians are rational actors with rational grievances. I used to unthinkingly believe the left-wing view. Now I know it is a misunderstanding of the situation.

"Whoever studies the nature of the conflict between the Muslims and the Jews understands an important fact, [namely that] this is a religious conflict, not a dispute about politics or nationality, or a conflict between races or tribes, or a fight over land or country, as some describe it".
- Saudi schoolbook tells the truth. But the West isn't listening.

"That is actually one of my red flags when taking in the argument of someone who claims to have the solution to the Israel/Palestine problem. I ask, how have they factored in Islam. If they haven’t, their solution has no real world application."
- Blog entry (unknown author) on "5 Minutes For Israel" sums it up, Dec 2012.

"Our enmity towards Hindus is not due to the Kashmir issue; our enmity towards America is not due to Iraq and Afghanistan; the enmity between us and the Jews is not due to the Palestine; the real cause is that they do not accept our system and Islam. Our enmity towards them (the non-believers) will continue even if they renounce all their crimes."
Al Qaeda, Sept 2013, explains the root cause of the Israeli conflict. But the left isn't listening.




The Palestinian nation was invented

The "Palestinian nation" is a recent invention - a tactic in the larger Arab war on Israel. It was invented to appeal to western leftists and the like. It succeeded.



Danny Ayalon explains how the West Bank is not "occupied" territory.
Rather it is disputed territory, like many other places in the world.
It did not belong previously to a country called "Palestine".
Rather it belonged to Jordan, an aggressor state whose claim on it was itself dubious.



The State of "Palestine" Quiz.
From Dry Bones.



Another version.
I love number 6!



The Middle East in 1914.
Israel is just a region in the Ottoman Empire.
There is no country called "Palestine".
From here.





Why do people support the Palestinians?




The Israeli-Palestinian conflict: War crimes




The Israeli wall




Gaza




Israel - The future




 
"This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the crusades"
- Azzam Pasha, the first Secretary General of the Arab League, launching the war by the non-democracies of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq against the infant democracy of Israel, 1948. See other references.


"Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel."
- Egyptian thug Nasser in May 1967.


"We shall destroy Israel and its inhabitants, and as for the survivors - if there are any - the boats are ready to deport them."
- PLO head Ahmed Shuqayri at the start of the Six-Day War in June 1967, when the Arab world tried yet again to finish the Holocaust.


"Oh Allah, vanquish the Jews and their supporters. Oh Allah, vanquish the Americans and their supporters.
Oh Allah, count their numbers, and kill them all, down to the very last one."

- Sheik Ahmad Bahr, Acting Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council and top Hamas official, Apr 2007 (just in case anyone thought the situation was any different today).


Bat Ye'or says that Arab anger at Israel is: "the distress of the oppressor confronted by his victim's rebellion."



 

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