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Left v. right violence - The left and "civility"


 

Hate speech against Margaret Thatcher

Margaret Thatcher dies, Apr 2013

Hate speech against US Republicans

The left after the Tucson shooting, 2011

The left after the Toulouse massacre, 2012

"Civility" in the 2012 US election

Matthew Yglesias

2016 - Farage, Boris and Trump

Comedy genius: Froma Harrop and "civility"

Hate speech against George W. Bush

Hate speech against Sarah Palin

The Tucson shooting

Twitter death threats to Sarah Palin

Innocence of Muslims death threats



The left and "civility"

The left engages in regular calls for "civility" in political discourse. These are in reality thinly veiled calls for the right to restrict its speech, while the left carries on as normal.

The left frequently attempts to blame the right's speech for specific acts of violence committed by other people. Again these are just thinly veiled attempts to restrict the speech of the right, while the left carries on as normal. The irony is that falsely blaming peaceful right-wingers for violence they had nothing to do with is itself an example of incivil speech.

As if all that hypocrisy wasn't enough, everyone on the right knows that a constant flood of hatred and death threats issues against figures on the right. "Civility" is not something the left believes in for itself.




"Tea Party Zombies Must Die!"
An online game in 2011 where you get to kill Sarah Palin and other Republicans.
Click to play.



Irish President Michael D. Higgins at a march in 2006 portraying Bush as a monster with blood dripping from his hands.




Hate speech against Margaret Thatcher

Left-wing hate speech against people on the right has been massively amplified in the age of social media, but it goes back further. One of the best places to start is the hate speech against Margaret Thatcher in the 1980s. A woman became leader of one of the most powerful countries on earth. She won three elections in a row. But left-wing feminists did not celebrate, because she was the "wrong sort of woman".

Thatcher was a strong leader and a great intellect. She never gave a toss what leftists said about her. She drove the left insane until the day she died, and even after.




Elvis Costello released this disgusting song, "Tramp The Dirt Down", in 1987.
He sings that he wants to see Margaret Thatcher dead in the grave: "Well I hope I don't die too soon, I pray the Lord my soul to save ... I'd like to live long enough to savour; That when they finally put you in the ground; I'll stand on your grave and tramp the dirt down ... when they finally put you in the ground, They'll stand there laughing and tramp the dirt down"
He has sung this song repeatedly. He is not ashamed of it.



Morrissey released "Margaret on the Guillotine" in 1988.
He dreams of seeing Thatcher dead: "The kind people; Have a wonderful dream; Margaret On The Guillotine; Cause people like you; Make me feel so tired; When will you die? When will you die?"



Morrissey, Mar 2012, declares "We Hate William and Kate" to Argentinians.
Sense has not visited him, though he is now in his 50s.
What a tosser.



"The Day That Margaret Thatcher Dies" (2009) by Pete Wylie.
See lyrics: "WHEN MARGARET THATCHER DIES; THERE WILL BE NO TEARS. SAVE YOUR SORROW FOR THE PEOPLE THAT SHE STOMPED FOR YEARS. SHE TORTURED NORTH OF WATFORD WITH A VICIOUS HATE. SO WHEN MARGARET THATCHER DIES; LET'S CELEBRATE"
"SO DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE DIE; DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE DIE; YEAH DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE DIE; DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE,DIE DIE"
Here he sings it in concert in 2012.



T-shirt looks forward to dancing on Thatcher's grave.
On sale as at 2011 at official Sinn Fein shop. Formerly here.
Gravestone reads: "Margaret Thatcher - Tyrant and Murderer".
Sign reads: "Dancers - Please form an orderly queue".



T-shirt on sale at TUC Congress, Sept 2012.
Tory MP Conor Burns says: "It shows an ugly side to the hard left who cannot move on from their utter defeat at the hands of this remarkable, but now frail, lady. Not for the first time Lady T shows why she amounts to so much more than her opponents."
The group selling the t-shirt is taxpayer-funded.



Labour leader Ed Miliband poses in 2011 with a Labour council candidate wearing the above shirt.
In 2013, Ed Miliband (yes, the same guy) got offended by the Daily Mail criticising his Marxist father and influence Ralph Miliband.
Civility!



The people of the Falkland Islands view Thatcher very differently to the left or the IRA.
They celebrate "Margaret Thatcher Day" every year on 10 January (the anniversary of her visit to the Falklands on 10 Jan 1983).



The song Black Boys On Mopeds by Sinéad O'Connor in 1990.
She compares Margaret Thatcher to the communist butchers of Tiananmen! "Margaret Thatcher on TV; Shocked by the deaths that took place in Beijing; It seems strange that she should be offended; The same orders are given by her". Pathetic.

  

Opening scene of The Iron Lady (2011).
A hideous film.
Margaret Thatcher had the most amazing British political life since WW2. She helped win the Cold War. She helped end the evil Soviet Empire. She helped liberate the Falklands, Argentina, Eastern Europe, and the member states of the Soviet Union. She made Britain a world power again. She made Britain's economy great again.
An epic story. And yet the film opens with 10 tedious minutes of Thatcher in confused old age. 10 minutes of this tedious sneering crap, as if left-wingers never get old too.
I have no idea if it got better, because I bailed out after 10 minutes. I wanted to see the epic life story of Margaret Thatcher. But I couldn't bear to sit through another minute of this creepy film.
See negative reviews.




Margaret Thatcher dies, Apr 2013

Celebrating the death of unelected dictators and terrorists is perfectly fine.

But in a democracy, no one should celebrate the death of your democratic political opponents. To do so betrays a latent desire for non-democratic rule. It is no surprise that this desire is strongest on the left.

Margaret Thatcher's death in Apr 2013 was a perfect moment for the left to disgrace itself in front of all reasonable people.





Hate site isThatcherDeadYet.co.uk celebrates Thatcher's death, Apr 2013.
As does maggiethatcher.com and milksnatcher.com.



A pro-jihad terrorist supporter and traitor tells us what he thinks.
George Galloway of the "Respect" party (what a joke) celebrates Margaret Thatcher's death, 8 Apr 2013.
The reference is to Elvis Costello's disgusting song.



Radical Islamic convert George Galloway, 8 Apr 2013, hopes the infidel Thatcher is burning in hell.
Somehow I don't think Thatcher would be interested in what this British traitor thinks.



A pro-jihad American traitor doesn't like Thatcher.
Ted Rall, 8 Apr 2013.



Michael C. Moynihan captions this as follows:
"Really surprised that, 35 years after its founding, the SWP hasn't yet broken into the mainstream".



Trevor Allman, who claims to be a Green Party local candidate in Greenwich, London, says on 10 Apr 2013 that he wishes the British Prime Minister had been killed by terrorists.
The Green Party looked into it and replied: "Not candidate or Green Party member (records show lapsed 2010)."
Allman's twitter account was taken down.



Left-wing comedian Frankie Boyle cracks a joke at Thatcher's funeral, 17 Apr 2013.
Viewing all the 1980s-era Tories at the funeral, the Chomsky-loving Boyle jokingly regrets that the IRA didn't kill more of the Tory party.
Civility!




Hate speech against US Republicans

There is endless hate speech from the left against the Republican Party in the US.


Twitter death threats to Republicans.
Collected by this user Sept 2011.



Leftists laugh on Twitter at the tragic death age 43 of Andrew Breitbart, Mar 2012.
He left behind four children age 4 to 12.
Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone said on 1 Mar 2012: "So Andrew Breitbart is dead. Here's what I have to say to that, and I'm sure Breitbart himself would have respected this reaction: Good! Fuck him. I couldn't be happier that he's dead."



Twitter death threats in June 2012 to the Republican Governor of Wisconsin Scott Walker.
The lefties are furious that he won the recall election they managed to call on 5 June 2012.
More death threats here.




The left after the Tucson shooting, 2011

After the Tucson shooting of Jan 2011, the left rushed to blame "right-wing speech".
The shooter turned out to be a mentally ill leftist.


Viper-tongued leftist Markos Moulitsas blames Sarah Palin, who has never wished violence on anyone.
There is of course no evidence that the shooter had any interest in Palin.
From Twitter, 8 Jan 2011.



Markos Moulitsas is famous for the above comment.
In Iraq in Mar 2004, four US civilian contractors were publicly killed and mutilated by jihadis.
All were US military veterans, with distinguished records. Three of them were fathers.
On seeing their burnt and dismembered bodies hung up on a bridge, Markos Moulitsas said: "I feel nothing ... Screw them."



The Guardian, 10 Jan 2011, rushes to link the Tucson shooting to the right and Sarah Palin.
I think they would be happier in a world where opposition to Obama was not allowed.



The Guardian, 24 October 2004, prints an article calling for Bush to be assassinated.
Formerly here and here. Copy here.



The Guardian, 13 February 2007, publishes the leader of Hamas.



The Guardian, 26 January 2011, publishes another Hamas terrorist leader.



The Guardian, 8 June 2012, publishes the leader of Hamas in Gaza.
The "Guardian" of what? Anti-semitism? Islamic hatred and terror?
The Guardian has also printed many articles supporting the killers of American troops in Iraq.



Bill Maher, Jan 2011, says the right incites violence (jump to 3:00).
He claims their message is: "wouldn't it be fun to kill the people we disagree with".
But he is unable to quote anything other than the vague metaphors everyone uses in politics.
He makes a good point about stupid Hitler analogies, but these are of course commonplace on the left.
Confronted with the fact that Obama himself uses these metaphors, Maher tries to weasel out of it and say that is different.



Bill Maher, 2 Mar 2007, thinks it is acceptable to regret that the 27 Feb 2007 Afghan jihadi assassination attempt on Dick Cheney failed.
He actually jokes about the suicide bombing (which killed 23 people) and pretty much says that if Cheney had died, it would have made the world a better place.
John Nolte: "This is the mistake guys like Maher make when they start complaining about the speech of others ... The bipartisan use of crosshairs on a map doesn't even begin to compare to that ... Maher isn't using a metaphor here. In front of millions of rabid partisans, he's painting a picture of how much better the world be if that Cheney guy was dead."
(Note: Technically this wasn't an assassination attempt because the jihadis probably did not know Cheney was there.)



Hilarious. On January 18, 2011, mere days after the "debate" on civility in politics, Democrat Steve Cohen compares the Republicans to the Nazis.



Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Chair of the Democrat National Committee, calls for more civility in public discourse, Jan 2012 - and then blames the Tea Party for the Tucson shooting!
She seems to have read nothing about the mental illness of the gunman. No, it must be the Tea Party.
And as for lack of "civility" in general, she does not mention the years of "Bush = Hitler". Nor the current "Occupy" violence. No, apparently it's the Tea Party again.
She says she "hesitates" to place blame ... and then blames the Tea Party!




The left after the Toulouse massacre, 2012

After the Toulouse massacre of 2012, the left rushed to blame "right-wing speech".
The killer turned out to be a Muslim terrorist.





Left-wing Irish blog People Korps, 20 Mar 2012, rushes to blame Sarkozy and the right for the sadistic killing of Jews.
Unfortunately, the killer turned out to be a Muslim terrorist.




"Civility" in the 2012 US election

During the 2012 US election, Twitchy.com and others on the right collected a vast archive of death threats (and threats of rioting and looting) from Obama supporters.



"Civility" in the 2012 election.



In Aug 2012, Hurricane Isaac threatened the Republican convention in Florida, leading to a new outburst of "civility" from the left.
Here, actor Samuel L. Jackson complains that the hurricane will apparently hit New Orleans instead.
Actress Ellen Barkin also joins in, re-tweeting without any criticism the following: "C'mon #Isaac! Wash every pro-life, anti-education, anti-woman, xenophobic, gay-bashing, racist SOB right into the ocean!"
Democrat former governor of Michigan Jennifer Granholm also joins in, as do loads of other lefties.



Tweet threatening Mitt Romney, from someone called Raymond Tapia, 3 Oct 2012.



The above guy, Raymond Tapia, claims it is his "right" to issue threats to presidential candidates he doesn't like.




Incivility on the right in 2012




Jezebel is so desperate to find "hatred" on the right that they label this as racist hate speech.
But surely this is just a harmless (and rather funny) joke.
Poor "nickygee02" had to delete his Twitter account because of the tidal wave of abuse from Jezebel followers.




Matthew Yglesias

Vox journalist Matthew Yglesias has a particularly foul tongue about his political opponents.
  

Matthew Yglesias tweets on 1 Mar 2012 about the tragic death age 43 of Andrew Breitbart, who left behind four children age 4 to 12.
In fairness I should note that Breitbart did the same when Ted Kennedy died age 77 in 2009 (also here).



In Nov 2018, Matthew Yglesias defended a left-wing mob threatening the family home of Fox News journalist Tucker Carlson.
The mob attacked Carlson's home when his wife was alone in it. They tried to break down the door. They shouted: "Tucker Carlson, we are outside your home. We want you to know, we know where you sleep at night. ... Tucker Carlson, we will fight! We know where you sleep at night! ... Racist scumbag, leave town!" One protester said she wanted to "bring a pipe bomb" to the house. Online they posted: "Each night you remind us that we are not safe. Tonight, we remind you that you are not safe either."
See more and more.




2016 - Farage, Boris and Trump

2016 was the year of victory for Brexit in the UK, and Trump in the US. This unleashed a tidal wave of hatred against, in particular, three figures: Nigel Farage, Boris Johnson and Donald Trump.

Now disliking any of these (or all three) is fine. I dislike Trump myself. But this page is not about dislike. That is normal politics. This page is about death threats, assaults and extreme levels of abuse.




Nigel Farage, who brilliantly succeeded in 2016 in his lifelong goal of getting the UK to vote to leave the EU, became the focus of an incredible flood of threats and abuse from self-righteous Remain fanatics.
Here is a sample of the threats against Farage in 2016.
Collected here.
  

Rapper "slowthai" holds up the severed head of Boris Johnson on stage, Sept 2019. Civility!
Of course I never heard of this guy before he did this.



I could listen to Boris Johnson all day, even in Ancient Greek.
That shouty young moron, "slowthai", not so much.



Irish singer Sinead O'Connor on the news that President Donald Trump has Covid, Oct 2020.




Comedy genius: Froma Harrop and "civility"



Comedy genius:
Froma Harrop is the President of the National Conference of Editorial Writers, which claims its mission is: "Restoring Civility to America's public discourse".
Froma Harrop (yes, the same person), August 2, 2011, says the Tea Party are terrorists! "Make no mistake: The tea party Republicans have engaged in economic terrorism against the United States -- threatening to blow up the economy if they don't get what they want. And like the al-Qaida bombers, what they want is delusional: the dream of restoring some fantasy caliphate in which no one pays taxes, while the country is magically protected from foreign attack and the elderly get government-paid hip replacements. Americans are not supposed to negotiate with terrorists, but that's what Obama has been doing."
Above, John Oliver of the Daily Show mocks her hypocrisy, Jan 2012, in one of the funniest items you will ever see.




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