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The Islamic street
The "Islamic street" of the third world often erupts into
(state sanctioned and state approved)
anger,
and it is often implied that we should take such anger seriously,
as if it is based on reason, good faith
and rational grievances.
One of the defining features of the
"Islamic street" is the willingness to riot, burn, loot,
rape, kill
and issue death threats over the slightest insult
and imaginary grievance.
How can one respect a culture that behaves like this?
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The Islamic culture of shame and pride
- Cultures based on shame, pride, honour and not losing face
are also cultures that are unable to accept criticism.
Such cultures are humiliated by their backwardness
in the modern world, which only makes them worse.
- Honour killings
- Violence against women in Pakistan
- Marches and demos in the Islamic world always seem to be marches for
religious conservatism,
censorship of speech,
hatred,
intolerance and violence.
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No one ever seems to march for democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion
or freedom of sexuality.
"Islamic Rage Boy",
the face of the irrational, illiterate, ignorant Islamic street.
This fool cannot read or write,
he thinks Americans carried out 9/11,
and he thinks we should listen to him.
As
Christopher Hitchens
says:
"It's impossible to satisfy Rage Boy and his ilk. It's stupid to try."
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Hypocrites
- Muslims desecrate synagogues, churches and mosques all the time
Muslims desecrate synagogues, churches, and even mosques, all the time,
without a word of complaint from the "Islamic street".
Hypocrites.
- Muslims desecrate the Koran all the time:
- Muslims even desecrate the Koran when protesting against
... desecration of the Koran!
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Angry mob in Afghanistan,
May 2005,
protesting the "Newsweek" story of the alleged desecration of the Koran,
burn a library in Jalalabad ...
destroying 200 Korans!
- Jihadis at Guantanamo desecrate the Koran:
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Piss and wind
(or via here)
- Mark Steyn is baffled by the riots.
He notes that Muslim prisoners at Guantanamo urinated on the Koran,
and tried to flush it down the toilet.
Muslims suicide bombed a mosque in Kandahar,
"which killed 20, wounded more than 50 and presumably desecrated every Koran in the building".
And Robert Mugabe destroyed a mosque in Zimbabwe.
And no one cares.
- Steyn, as always, sums it up:
"Nobody got killed in Gitmo, so instead America is being flayed as the planet's number one torturer
for being insufficiently respectful to the holy book of its prisoners, even though the Americans themselves
supplied their prisoners with the holy book, even though the preferred holy book of most Americans is banned
in the home country of many of the prisoners, even though Americans who fall into the hands of the other side
get their heads hacked off, even though the prisoners' co-religionists themselves blow up more mosques
and Korans than Americans ever do"
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Account of the jihadis in Guantanamo
by a U.S. Army male nurse who worked with them:
"The only Korans I saw, or even heard about, being placed in toilets, torn, or thrown onto the tier were done by detainees.
...
Saw Korans thrown on the tier or torn,
but these were by individuals without complete control of their behavior,
such as a psychotic episode.
Heard about two Korans in toilets by the same type of detainee
prior to being admitted for psychiatric restabilization."
- Muslims ban the Koran, confiscating copies and burning them:
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Amir Taheri:
"Editions of the Koran printed in Egypt or Saudi Arabia are seized as contraband in Iran; Egypt and most other Muslim nations in turn ban the import of Korans printed in Iran."
- And of course, Muslims desecrate and burn synagogues and churches all the time:
Real desecration of holy books
The hysteria and violence of the "Newsweek" riots may have backfired.
Many westerners, feeling a threat to their freedom to blaspheme and criticise religion,
have decided to do some real desecration of holy books.
There are now a growing number of
desecration videos and websites
on the Internet,
and this seems likely to grow forever
in direct response to the threats from religions.
The only way people will stop making these
is if religions stop threatening them.
Again, people should have the right to do this.
It may be ignorant, it may be silly, it may be rude,
I may not do it myself,
and the state certainly should not do it,
but private citizens must have the right, in any free society,
to desecrate the holy books of any religion.
- YouTube searches for:
- Burning the Bible:
- Burning the Quran:
- It may be juvenile,
but it should be legal.
And you can understand, given the immense damage these books have caused,
why people do it.
If you want them to stop, then stop the threat of violence.
- Flush a Holy Book.com
allows you pick which text annoys you the most.
The Islamic street disgraced itself yet again over the
Muhammed cartoons, 2005-6.
- The Muhammed cartoons
- Image gallery
of the riots and demos.
- Rioting hypocrites:
- The
rioting hypocrites
of the Islamic street are out again,
burning the Christian cross
(in the flag of Denmark)
to protest insults to religion.
Just as they regularly burn the Jewish Star of David
(in the flag of Israel).
Hypocrites.
- The rioting fascists burnt the Danish and Norwegian embassies in Syria,
the Danish embassy in Lebanon,
and the Italian embassy in Libya.
- Killing of innocents:
A British fascist
angry about the Muhammed cartoons,
at an
Al Ghurabaa pro-terror demonstration,
London, Feb 2006.
This is a real image (not Photoshopped).
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The pro-sharia, anti-free speech, pro-terror
jihadi thugs at this demo are from
Al Ghurabaa / The Saved Sect.
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This is like Nazis marching through London in 1942.
Why is Al Ghurabaa allowed to even exist?
Why aren't these people deported?
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It is not extreme to suggest deportation.
81 percent of Britons
think these people should be deported.
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Mid 2006 -
Al Ghurabaa and the Saved Sect
are finally made illegal organisations.
That was their last demo.
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Al Ghurabaa / Saved Sect members jailed for cartoon demo, July 2007
- Mizanur Rahman, Umran Javed and Abdul Muhid
each got 6 years for soliciting to murder.
Abdul Saleem got 4 years for inciting racial hatred
(he chanted: "7/7 on its way",
and: "Europe, you will pay with your blood").
- If you think it is "racist" to ask why
these people are living in Britain,
listen to moderate Muslims who agree:
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Paintball imams spread militancy,
Sunday Times, Sept 10, 2006,
has quotes from moderate British Muslims:
- Hanif Qadir:
"If you want sharia, then go and ask for it in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan."
- Afzal Khan:
"If they want to live under an Islamic caliphate,
they should take this idea to Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, and go and create it over there."
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The Catholic church under John Paul II
never stood firmly against the evil of Islamic fundamentalism.
Maybe under Benedict XVI this is changing.
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The Pope Benedict XVI riots
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Pope Benedict XVI
gave a speech,
Sept 2006, in which he quoted the Byzantine Christian Emperor
Manuel II Palaiologos (reigned 1391 to 1425) on Islam:
Full text of the Pope's speech
(also here):
"In the seventh conversation edited by Professor Khoury, the emperor touches on the theme of the jihad (holy war).
The emperor must have known that surah 2, 256 reads: "There is no compulsion in religion".
It is one of the suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and under threat.
But naturally the emperor also knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Qur'an, concerning holy war.
Without decending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the
"Book" and the "infidels", he turns to his interlocutor somewhat brusquely with the central question
on the relationship between religion and violence in general, in these words:
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman,
such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."
The emperor goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable.
Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul.
"God is not pleased by blood, and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature.
Faith is born of the soul, not the body.
Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly,
without violence and threats. ... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm,
or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death."
The decisive statement in this argument against violent conversion is this:
not to act in accordance with reason is contrary to God's nature."
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The Pope was quoting from the writings of Manuel II,
published in French by
Theodore Khoury in 1966:
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This book (or the relevant section) does not appear to be online.
If it comes online somewhere, please
tell me here.
- This controversy is not about agreeing with the Pope.
It's about whether he has a right to say it.
It's about freedom of speech:
- It is typical of a Pope to quote the wrong person - not a modern
Enlightenment critic of Islam,
but some unelected medieval dictator, at a time when
the Christian church was itself burning atheists and heretics,
and spreading religion by the sword:
See Killings for Christianity.
- Still, as with the
Muhammed cartoons,
the point is not whether the Pope is exactly right.
The point is that in a free society, he has a right to say it.
This is what the Islamists threaten, and this is ultimately what this is all about.
The Islamic violence in response to the Pope calling Islam violent
To protest at anyone saying Islam is violent,
Islamists .. rioted, burnt churches and killed Christians.
Vile, sanctimonious hypocrites.
- Iraq
- Middle East
- Pakistan
- Africa
- Europe
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Islamist jihadi scum protest in London
and threaten violence:
"Pope Benedict you will pay, the Muja Hadeen are coming your way."
"Pope Benedict watch your back."
These people should all be deported.
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Anjem Choudary
threatens the Pope and critics of Islam with death.
"Non-Muslims must ... understand that there may be serious consequences
if you insult Islam and the prophet",
said
this religious fanatic.
"Whoever insults the message of Muhammad is going to be subject to capital punishment."
Surely a man who threatens people for exercising their right to free speech
and freedom of religion
should be arrested?
Most of the West agrees with the Pope
- The West is beginning to get sick of these tantrums by the Islamic street:
- Sky News poll:
Should the Pope apologise?
8 percent Yes.
92 percent No.
Since England and Wales are
3 percent Muslim,
this is not really a ringing endorsement of the Islamic street
from non-Muslims.
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Infantilizing Muslim "rage"
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"I am sick of "Muslim rage." Whether inspired by the pope or Danish cartoonists
or the clumsy use of the word "crusade" by a Western politician,
there is simply no defense for the behavior of these imams and their followers.
It is barbaric, and everybody who is not barbaric
or an unreconstructed apologist for barbarians knows it."
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Australian Prime Minister John Howard tells angry Muslims to "move on".
"It's a strange form of restraint to respond to words of disagreement
with demonstrations and threats of violence.
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If Catholics rioted every time people attacked the Catholic Church,
you would have riots on a very regular basis.
He's expressed his regrets and I think we should all move on."
- Former Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Carey, defends the Pope:
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Lord Carey
says this is a:
"storm in a tea cup".
He dismissed Muslim charges that the Pope had "rubbished" Islam.
"Muslims, as well as Christians, must learn to enter into dialogue without crying 'foul'".
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Carey backs Pope and issues warning on 'violent' Islam,
speech by Lord Carey, Newbold College, Berkshire,
isn't as good as it sounds.
The full speech
is full of traditional left-wing foreign policy,
criticism of secularism, and
defence of religion.
However, he is not afraid to criticise Islam:
- Islam was spread by force:
"Islam had its darker moments too.
It is undeniably the case that its expansion was largely due to military conquest".
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On the present riots:
"The incident is a sad reminder that political correctness rules these days.
We find ourselves forbidden to ask awkward questions ...
So allow me to ask an awkward question which I believe was hovering in the background
of the Pope's thesis and which many westerners are asking frequently these days:
"Why is Islam associated with violence?"
We are told, not unreasonably, that true Islam is not a violent religion
and the true Muslim condemns violence. I understand and agree.
My many Muslim friends tell me so. I believe them because I know, as I said earlier,
that the majority of Muslims around the world are shocked and saddened by the way Islam
is associated with violence. ...
That it seems a Nun in Somalia has been murdered by an extremist,
as a direct result of the Pope's lecture, rams home the need to bring out the best in religion,
not the worst. The Muslim world must address this matter with great urgency."
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On Islamist jihadi "martyrdom":
"I find it difficult to understand the argument that a person can be a blessed martyr if,
in the cause of his conflict, he knowingly kills innocent people.
Christian martyrdom is unlike this.
We have no martyrology which honours people who kill innocent people."
- On Muslim persecution of Christians:
"Christians will want to point to the need for reciprocity
in regard to mission and the building of churches abroad. I find it very strange that Muslims, who plead and argue so strongly for their rights when minorities, are unaware of the plight of Christians in Muslim lands. The fact that Muslims may build their mosques and schools in the West, make converts and advertise their faith is, sadly, not reciprocated in Muslim lands."
- The future: the Islamic world needs to change:
"There will be no significant material and economic progress until the Muslim mind
is allowed to challenge the status quo of Muslim conventions
and even their most cherished shibboleths."
- In short, not bad at all.
If only the present Archbishop of Canterbury
was like this.
Parody
Manuel II apologises:
"the Pope's recent apology
...
bears a striking similarity with a similar apology delivered more than 600 years ago
by Manuel II Palaeologus himself to offended Muslim armies
after they ransacked his Christian country,
converted its citizens to Islam, and beheaded or enslaved those who resisted the forced conversions.
In a public speech ...
Manuel II apologized to the Islamic community
that besieged his controversial
"Byzantine entity"
...
Manuel II said .. that the recent slaughters of thousands of his Christian subjects
by the Muslim sword were the result of his own blindness to the true peaceful nature of Islam.
...
protesters demanded that the Byzantine ruler be punished by strict Islamic Shariah law
for implying that Muslims cannot respond to criticism rationally,
but only with demonstrations, threats and violence.
Angry Ottoman activists burned a number of ancient Greek churches
and publicly beheaded residents in several Byzantine towns,
converting the less stubborn survivors to Islam
to the cheers and applause of prominent Muslim clerics
...
In conclusion, it should be noted that the "Byzantine entity" lasted for only 62 more years,
falling to the Ottoman Turks in 1453,
thus ending
the 1100-year-old controversy about its right to exist"
- The Islamist genocide-state of
Sudan
has one of the most evil regimes on earth.
Its people have
no human rights,
and it engages in rape and genocide against non-Muslims
and even non-Arab Muslims.
It has killed maybe
2 million people in jihad, genocide, rape, and slave-trading of black Africans.
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The Sudan "teddy bear" incident, Nov-Dec 2007.
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Gillian Gibbons
(see her myspace page),
a kindly British teacher
of 6 and 7 year olds in the Islamic tyranny of Sudan,
is arrested for allowing the children to name the class teddy bear "Muhammad".
She faced a threat of 40 lashes.
The school has been closed after death threats.
- Disgusting. How to scare 6 and 7 year olds for life.
But then again, that is the idea.
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Islamic fanatics march through the streets demanding the execution of teddy bear teacher Gillian Gibbons.
Islam is disgraced once again.
- Before she was freed I said:
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Britain should threaten Sudan with attack if she is not freed.
Comment:
"This is the sort of incident which, 100 years ago, would have prompted the government of the national arrested on such a trumped-up charge to inform the authorities that if the woman were not produced immediately, they would all be dead within 24 hours. And they would follow through."
- If she is jailed,
British special forces
should be sent in
to bring her out.
It is intolerable that an innocent British citizen
should be jailed by these Dark Age savages.
- Stephen Pollard:
"Can someone explain please why we don't simply explain to the Sudanese government - privately - that unless Gillian Gibbons is released from custody, a missile will land on a Sudanese ministry building?"
A commenter says:
"Can you imagine Margaret Thatcher putting up with this nonsense? The SAS would already have been dispatched to free Gillian Gibbons."
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She is freed, Dec 2007.
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Maybe Sudan did receive some threats behind the scenes.
I hope so.
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Let's hope the threats do not follow her home to Britain.
Let's hope she is not attacked by Islamist immigrants in Britain.
Let's hope the sick, violent young men of the Islamic street in Sudan
do not take out their anger and hatred on the school and the children.
- Gillian Gibbons herself seems to have very little understanding of the regime she has just escaped:
Conclusion - The angry Islamic street should not be listened to
While the excitable unemployed men of the Islamic street scream for death and blood
in response to the slightest offence,
ultimately our response to them should be one of contempt.
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As Victor Davis Hanson
points out, it is the American street they should fear:
"There is an American Street that is a far more powerful, and a more responsible force
than any such populace in the Arab world. Like many of you, I tire of hearing "Death to America"
from the mobs in Teheran or Jericho, and am sick of the usual coffee-house
Middle Eastern hack intellectual that CNN drags out from London,
who ... in the safety of a host Western humane society,
starts listing various perceived grievances against the West,
and then issues warnings (!) about the furor of the temperamental "Arab Street."
I respect and fear the American version far more,
because its anger is fueled by reason
and is slow and steady and furious when released.
The world should not worry when the half-educated, fueled by zealotry and nursed on conspiracy theory,
starts chanting; but it should when a rational and patient American
slowly fumes and decides he has had it
with the Iranian "President", Hezbollah's fascism, the various thugs on the West Bank,
the Sunni Triangle's murderers, the primordial of the Hindu Kush,
or some subsidized dictator in Pakistan or Egypt lecturing us.".
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US soldiers accused of tearing up and burning a Koran in Afghanistan, Oct 2007.
I imagine these claims are lies. They usually are.
But even if true, the real story is this:
Islamic fanatics threaten violence over this minor offence!
This just sums up the violent, seething touchiness of the Islamic street,
and the moronic third world culture of
honour and shame.
"If the perpetrators do not apologise to Afghans and to all the Muslims of the world, and if they are not brought to justice and punished for what they have done, we will stand against you, you will see an uprising."
An uprising?
For this?
How can anyone take seriously a culture that behaves like this?
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The claims are lies.
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Intimidating the West, from Rushdie to Benedict,
Daniel Pipes,
New York Sun,
September 26, 2006.
These riots are all about intimidating the West into abandoning the Enlightenment
and obeying Islamic law:
"No conspiracy lies behind these six rounds of inflammation and aggression,
but examined in retrospect, they coalesce and form a single, prolonged campaign of intimidation,
with surely more to come. The basic message - "You Westerners no longer have the privilege
to say what you will about Islam, the Prophet, and the Qur'an,
Islamic law rules you too"
- will return again and again until Westerners either do submit
or Muslims realize their effort has failed."
In short, we should simply ignore
the angry Islamic street.
They have no ideas that are worth listening to.
We should be simply uninterested in their anger
and their problems.
Bert,
the Sesame Street muppet, appears on
posters carried by
moron supporters of Bin Laden,
Bangladesh, Oct 2001.
"DON'T ATTACK AFGHANISTAN", say these moron supporters of Islamist terror,
as if anyone should listen to them.
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