There is no moral equivalence between the Israelis
and the Palestinians.
There is a political case on both sides
of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,
but in the conduct of the war there is a difference.
In the intifada the Palestinians have
descended to the lowest moral level,
(a) deliberately kill civilian women and children,
and (b) celebrate doing so.
The Israelis do not do this.
They try to hit military targets.
This is not by chance, but rather reflects their different moral universes.
The Israelis have a religion
(and a western philosophy)
that believes in basic human morality,
where in war one should try only to attack military targets.
The Palestinians, sadly, do not have a religion
basic human morality,
and so have become simply barbaric and racist,
supporting the killing of all Jews, even
children and infants.
The majority of Palestinians
the killing of Jewish civilians.
There is a political case on both sides of this conflict,
but there is no moral equivalence between the two sides.
Israel sites its military facilities as far from civilians as it can.
Palestinians and other Arabs could easily attack these and avoid civilian deaths.
They choose not to.
They choose to attack civilian areas instead.
Because Palestinian and other Arab fighters are happy to kill enemy civilians
of all ages.
They are all infidels - it doesn't matter to them.
Because Palestinian and Islamist fighters have no morality, no honour
and no sense of shame.
They do not have the code of morality that normal people have,
such as avoiding the innocent in war.
Because attacking civilians is safer.
Attacking an IDF base is extremely dangerous, and liable to get you killed
without achieving anything.
Much easier to attack defenceless women and children in homes and shops
- if your morality allows you live with that.
Hezbollah (and Palestinians and other Arabs)
could easily launch their military attacks far from their own civilians.
They choose not to.
They choose to embed their military in their own civilians.
Because it will restrain the Israelis, because they are civilized.
Israel doesn't want to kill enemy civilians,
so they can be used as effective human shields.
Hiding in civilians
gives the Islamists a military advantage.
This would not of course work in reverse.
Israel embedding any target in civilians
would not restrain Islamists attacking it in any way.
Because if enemy civilians are killed by Israel,
it is good for the enemy.
It may be the only thing that will stop Israel,
if the (normally hopeless) Islamist military attacks can't.
Why? Not so much because of international opinion
as because Israeli domestic opinion will restrain their military.
Again, this would not work in reverse.
Israeli civilian deaths would encourage, not demoralise or slow down, their enemies.
The Palestinian way of war.
Picture credit unknown.
Tell me here.
Of course, this is only one aspect of the shameful Palestinian/Islamist way of war.
Another aspect would show the Palestinian "soldier" shooting into the baby carriage
when it was alone.
I'm not being over-dramatic.
You're familiar, of course, with the Palestinian attack
where, in cold blood,
they machine-gunned a baby in a baby seat at close range.
Another version of the image.
Picture credit unknown.
Tell me here.
Infographic compares military hardware in Gaza and Israel.
See full size.
never asks the obvious question.
Which is: If Hamas had these weapons, would one Jew be left alive?
A new tactic emerges in 2006:
Palestinian civilians form a human shield around a target,
forcing Israel not to strike it.
"Israel called off airstrikes on the homes of two militants Sunday after hundreds of Palestinians crowded around the buildings forming human shields, a new tactic that forced the army to re-evaluate its aerial campaign in the Gaza Strip.
It was the first time Palestinians have formed human shields to prevent an airstrike.".
Here's a question:
Why don't Israeli civilians form human shields around targets?
If you can answer that question,
you are well on the way to seeing past the propaganda
and finally understanding the
An Engineered Tragedy,
Don Radlauer, ICT, 2002
70 percent of Israeli deaths are non-combatants.
15 percent of Palestinian deaths are non-combatants.
Why the difference?
What causes this difference?
Also, 95 percent of all Palestinian deaths are male.
Why is this?
The difference comes because of the difference
in Israeli and Palestinian morality in war.
From the ICT study above:
The Palestinians kill a broad section of society,
including old people and
people minding their own business in coffee shops and on buses:
The Israelis kill young men engaged in violent attacks and riots,
and stupid kids standing around watching:
At around age 12, Palestinian boys (but note, not girls)
start watching riots, helping, spotting,
running back and forth,
throwing stones and carrying toy guns, and, inevitably, getting shot:
The fact that Palestinian girls aren't being killed indicates that
the Israelis aren't randomly killing civilians,
but engaging in combat, and only those stupid enough to be in the middle of the combat
are in danger.
In fact, more Israeli girls are killed than Palestinian girls.
Israel's rules of engagement against children and youths throwing rocks:
First, it should be noted that
if you don't want to get hurt,
stay at home. Don't throw rocks.
Parents, don't let your children throw rocks and
and pipe bombs,
while snipers fire on Israeli troops from the background.
Ultimately, that is the answer.
Whatever rules of engagement Israel uses,
children participating in riots and shooting
will get killed.
The answer is children should stay at home.
Let's Talk About the Children
by Naomi Ragen
- "I cannot help but gasp every time I see it: children in front of tanks, throwing stones at armed soldiers.
And nowhere, but nowhere, is there a single mother running to grab their hands and lead them home.
Where are the Palestinian mothers? And what in Heaven's name are they thinking when they let their children
endanger their lives, and the lives of others"
Palestinian child abuse: The Silwan incident, Oct 2010.
An ambush is prepared in front of cameras.
Palestinian children are encouraged to attack and stone an Israeli car with a settler and his 13 year old son in it.
A child runs at the car and is hit.
If the car stops, the settler and his boy may be killed horribly.
Luckily the driver gets away.
Comical lies from the Palestinian boy afterwards:
"I had just left the Friday prayers .. when I saw a car speeding towards me. I couldn't run away in time, I didn't even have time to signal him with my hands. It was clear he did it on purpose. I was on the sidewalk."
The parents of these children should be in jail.
None of the above are very convincing in showing
by the Israeli state
to kill civilians.
Again, it seems to any objective observer that
the Israelis try to follow the rules of war.
If you believe the Israelis are "just as bad" as the Palestinians,
find me a single incident since 1960
in which the Israeli state deliberately targeted and tried to kill civilians
in the same way the Palestinians do every day.
The Palestinians routinely and deliberately target and attack
schools, shops, restaurants, nightclubs, buses, aircraft,
civilians in their cars and houses,
and so on, with no military target in sight.
Show me a single incident since 1960
when the Israelis did this.
Tell me about it
There is no ambiguity on the Palestinian side.
It is policy (and always has been)
to deliberately target and kill all civilians, from the old to the young.
Endless attacks are made on civilian targets, with no military target in sight.
Islam seems to possess no fundamental rules of warfare.
Judaism seems clearly morally superior to Islam,
since it opposes targeting civilians in warfare.
believe they will go to some kind of paradise in the sky
(or somewhere) as a reward for killing innocents.
Unfortunately for them, there is no such place.
They are just dead, and so are their victims.
TV interview in 2011 of
92 year old
Her father took part in the
Hebron massacre of the Jews in 1929.
celebrates the massacre,
and hopes for a greater massacre of the Jews in the future.
I point out
that if Hamas had better technology, they would use it to more carefully target civilians
pre-schools, primary schools, synagogues, hospitals, cafes and so on.
School bus attack, Apr 2011.
Hamas uses laser-guided missile to carefully target
an Israeli school bus, killing a 16 year old schoolboy.
The killing of the children in the Sbarro pizzeria in 2001
sums up the mental sickness (and I am being quite literal)
of Palestinian society.
It's not just that they targeted women and children.
It's that they openly celebrated it afterwards.
Sbarro butcher, the evil witch
describes how the Palestinians celebrated the killing of children. "Afterwards, when I took the bus, the Palestinians around Damascus Gate [in Jerusalem] were all smiling. You could sense that everybody was happy. ... inside the bus, they were all congratulating one another. They didn't even know one another, yet they were exchanging greetings.
Two minutes later, they said on the radio that the number had increased to five. I wanted to hide my smile, but I just couldn't. Allah be praised, it was great. As the number of dead kept increasing, the passengers were applauding. They didn't even know that I was among them."
The worst thing about the Palestinians
- unlike the Israelis -
the Palestinians deliberately target
women and children.
The Palestinians have no basic human morality
in their conduct of war,
and believe in killing all Jews, including children,
toddlers and babies.
Opinion polls show
the majority of
Palestinians support killing Israeli civilians.
The Israelis are not like this.
No opinion poll in Israel
has ever shown majority support for
killing Palestinian civilians.
The Israelis fight a war against military targets.
The Palestinians' war consists of almost
nothing but war crimes against civilians.
The Irish poet Tom Paulin
exemplifies the moral sickness on the western left.
called for the killing of Jewish civilians in 2002
4-10 April 2002:
"If there is one thing Paulin clearly abhors about Israel, it is the Brooklyn-born Jewish settlers.
'They should be shot dead,' he says forcefully. 'I think they are Nazis, racists, I feel nothing but hatred for them.'"
The use of "Nazi" language is nauseating.
We are meant to take it for granted that Paulin would have been a brave intellectual
standing up to fascism in the
1930s and 1940s.
Somehow I doubt it.
Islamism is the modern Nazism and Paulin is no enemy of it.
5 year old Danielle Shefi was
shot dead cowering in her bedroom with her baby brothers
by brave Islamic fascist heroes,
27 April 2002,
a few days after Paulin's call for such killings.
They also shot her 4 year old baby brother.
His ignorant article is full of unthinking assumptions,
such as the assumption that the suicide bomber must be living a
"wretched" life of "dispossession"
and "lack of self-determination"
(as opposed, for example, to simply being a
on Eagleton's incoherent attack on atheism.
The Hatuel family
- 4 children
shot dead with their mummy, May 2004.
The idealistic twentysomething Islamic fascists
moved in on the stopped car
and shot the four children
- including a 2 year old in a baby seat -
at close range.
The Palestinians were not ashamed of this sick war crime
committed in their name,
The thug Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Authority
described the killers as "heroic".
They described the children as "terrorists".
jihad TV described the killing as
a "resistance strike".
None of this is unusual.
The leader behind this attack on defenceless children was
leader of Islamic Jihad in southern Gaza.
Justice came calling for him in Sept 2005.
expresses how I feel:
"That murder has haunted me since it happened. What kind of human could machine-gun a baby
in her carseat? Hatred, pure evil."
a 4 year old girl
whose head was smashed on a rock until she was dead
by the Lebanese monster
Palestinians dance in celebration at the killing of Israeli women and children
in Aug 2004.
Images from Reuters.
Original source lost.
They are celebrating the Islamist suicide bombing of two buses of women and children
doing back-to-school shopping in
which killed 16 innocent civilians -
including a 3 year old little boy,
Aviel Atash -
with no military target anywhere in sight.
The women and children on the bus were the targets.
And the Palestinians are not embarrassed by this.
Instead they dance in the streets.
Palestinians openly celebrate bus bombings:
"Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, the apple of my eye
A bombing every minute;
Soldiers are afraid;
In black bags;
Chunks of flesh of Jews;
In black bags;
Chunks of flesh of Jews"
Comment on the above:
"I apologize for re-stating the obvious, but if Americans or Israelis openly celebrated
the murder of innocent civilians, pictures of the celebration would be plastered
on the front page of every newspaper on the planet."
Opinion polls show that
the majority of Palestinians celebrate killing civilians.
The Palestinians, with their primitive racist tribalism,
want to kill women and children.
The Israelis, with their sophisticated modern universal morality, don't.
They only want to kill combatants.
is the difference between them.
There are other differences of course, such as that Israelis believe in democracy
and Palestinians are fighting to set up a tyranny.
But the most fundamental distinction is that
of targeting non-combatants.
That is the difference between
the Israelis and the Palestinians.
An attempted answer:
posts a video
of American Jews celebrating the attack on Hamas in Gaza in Jan 2009.
This is too ambiguous.
After all, in these attacks the Israelis killed terror leaders
and hundreds of Hamas terrorists.
There would not be anything wrong with Jews celebrating that.
What we need is something unambiguous
- an attack where only civilians die, and no one else,
and then Jews or Israelis celebrate.
Tell me about such an event here.
"But in the fanatic Jewish precincts in Hebron, settlers danced in the streets and praised Goldstein's martyrdom. The Purim parades continued as if nothing had happened, and some residents of Kiryat Arba called his act "a great gift." One settler, stopped by a soldier as she tried to assault a Palestinian journalist, shrieked, "We should kill 500, not 50!""
Shame on those settlers.
There are still some differences with Palestinian terror attacks though:
Every Israeli party condemned the Cave of the Patriarchs attack in absolute terms.
The killer, Baruch Goldstein, belonged to the
The entire "Kach"
movement was outlawed by the Israeli government.
Providing funds or material support to Kach was made a crime.
The Israeli government arrested Goldstein's associates.
The Israeli government declined to prosecute the Arabs who beat Goldstein to death
after he was disarmed.
The Israeli government outlawed and destroyed a shrine erected at Goldstein's grave.
The Israeli Army bulldozed the shrine and prayer area set up at his grave.
Synagogues raised funds for Goldstein's victims.
A poll found only
4 percent of Israelis supported Goldstein.
No political party in Israel since 1994
has ever approved of the killing or praised Goldstein.
There were no further attacks by Goldstein's people.
His organisation simply disappeared.
His attack was a one-off.
The difference between Israeli rules
and Palestinian war crimes:
is famous for this
video in Feb 2008
where he boasts that the Palestinians of Gaza
"have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly"
to help the Hamas fighters kill Jews.
And Israel has to fight Hamas while avoiding these civilians.
Later, in Apr 2010, the 3 year old daughter of this Hamas leader
became seriously ill.
Israel airlifted her to hospital.
Her father, surprisingly, refrained from killing her rescuers.
He will kill them later.
No, seriously, he will.
The girl was treated at the Barzilai hospital in Ashkelon.
fired rockets at this hospital,
and no doubt will fire more.
So yes. He will kill them later.
says Israel is carrying out a "war of genocide" against the Palestinians.
takes his wife for treatment to a private hospital in Israel.
Palestinian jihadis enter a house, and stab an 11 year old, a 4 year old, and a baby to death.
then celebrate the killings.
Two animals from the PFLP were arrested for the killings, Apr 2011.
"They saw children sleeping in the home, and entered the Fogel family residence.
Immediately after entering the home, the youths set their knives on two young brothers sleeping in their beds, 4-year-old Elad and 11-year-old Yoav.
The two then left the house. One of the suspects, however, returned and stabbed to death
three-month-old baby Hadas after she began crying in her crib.
Amjad said that he was unaware that there were two other children in the house, and that if he knew, he would have stabbed them as well."
Poll, Apr 2011.
32 percent of Palestinians support the Fogel family massacre.
celebrate the killing of the
Fogel children at Itamar, Mar 2011.
A Palestinian man hands out treats to Hamas "policemen" (i.e. terrorists) in Gaza.
From Getty Images.
The same Palestinian "man" celebrates with a taxi driver.
From Getty Images.
Palestinians burn the synagogue of
after the Jews have been expelled, 2005.
Ironically, the Fogel family was only in the West Bank because of the "peace" process.
They previously lived in
Netzarim in Gaza,
until they were ethnically cleansed in 2005
(an ethnic cleansing applauded by the entire left).
Image from here.