Oddly enough, the main Christian churches over the last number of years have developed
what might be called a "left-wing foreign policy"
- anti-America, anti-Britain, anti-Israel,
and generally sympathetic to Arab and Muslim causes
and foreign tyranny.
The Christian churches are clearly going to be of no help in
the current war
to protect (among other things) their world too.
Roland Shirk, December 14, 2010, asks why the churches have become left-wing on many issues (the economy, foreign policy, Islam) since the late 20th century.
"It would take not a single blog post but a very long essay indeed to analyze why Christian churches and leaders now embrace irresponsible leftist politics that they never would have in previous decades - as if the text of the Bible or the Church Fathers had suddenly morphed, yielding radically different doctrines than prevailed for some 20 Christian centuries."
Of course, I'm not a fan of their previous doctrines either!
But it is interesting how they have changed.
Michael Nazir-Ali, Bishop of Rochester, Apr 2007,
praises the terror state of Iran
for not killing its
"I saw on the one hand what Iran was doing,
and what the president [of Iran] said had much to do with the moral and spiritual tradition
of their country.
The president talked about the religious background to the release,
with reference to the Prophet's birthday and the passing over of Christ.
What struck me was that if there were any values on the British side
they were free-floating and not anchored in a spiritual and moral tradition."
Let's parse this. The unelected, so-called
"president" of Iran is involved in killing British soldiers in Iraq,
oppressing his own people, and persecuting, torturing and executing minorities
and political dissenters.
These are his "values",
those of eastern despotism and cruelty,
and we are supposed to admire them
because they are overlain with a veneer of religious bullshit?
Meanwhile, the brave British soldiers are fighting and dying
in order to give Iraqis
one chance at freedom, one chance to escape from the Iran-like despotism
that has dominated their history and the entire region.
The British soldiers are the ones who are fighting a brave fight of good against
and they are the ones whose values are in question,
because they do not cover them with a veneer of religious bullshit?
What Michael Nazir-Ali is saying, as so many religious people have said throughout history, is:
"No matter how evil you are, no matter what you are doing,
if you spout about religion, I will in some way admire you."
On Islam in Britain:
"there has been a worldwide resurgence of the ideology of Islamic extremism. One of the results of this has been to further alienate the young"
[i.e. young British Muslims]
"from the nation in which they were growing up and also to turn already separate communities into "no-go" areas where adherence to this ideology has become a mark of acceptability.
Those of a different faith or race may find it difficult to live or work there because of hostility to them and even the risk of violence. In many ways, this is but the other side of the coin to far-Right intimidation."
The Bishop of Durham,
attacks Western countries for trying to depose non-Western dictators:
"For Bush and Blair to go into Iraq together was like a bunch of white vigilantes going into Brixton to stop drug dealing. This is not to deny there's a problem to be sorted, just that they are not credible people to deal with it".
The Archbishop of York,
attacks Blair for deposing Saddam:
"Undoubtedly, a very wicked leader has been removed, but there are wicked leaders in other parts of the world."
See Oliver Kamm
The Archbishop of Wales,
issued the most disgusting
on the death of the terrorist and mass murderer
"When I heard the news of his death this morning, my initial reaction was to pray that in death Yasser Arafat will find that peace which only God can give and which was denied him in life."
Bishop Stephen Venner
"We've been too simplistic in our attitude towards the Taliban.
simply to say therefore that everything they do is bad is not helping the situation. The Taliban can perhaps be admired for their conviction to their faith and their sense of loyalty to each other."
In the past, churchmen made cruel and arbitrary moral judgements
based on a nonsensical holy book.
In the present, their job is to attack anyone who makes any moral judgements at all
I'm not sure which is worse.
Perry de Havilland, 14 Dec 2009:
"But how is 'conviction' and 'loyalty' in the service of evil somehow admirable?"
Nile Gardiner is brilliant, 14 Dec 2009:
"During the Second World War, remarks like these about the enemy would have rightly been regarded as an act of treason.
Bishop Venner's comments are a sickening disgrace
At a time of war, political and religious leaders must never give comfort to the enemy. That is exactly what Venner has done - he has crossed the line and disgraced his position.
He should also do the decent thing and step down from his post - it's hard to see how Bishop Venner can serve his country with an ounce of dignity after offering the Taliban a propaganda coup."
And because we know, we just know that the Bishop
has only vague ideas about what exactly the Taliban do,
here again is
The Taliban way of war.
George Carey, Archbishop of Canterbury (1991-2002)
criticises Islam, 2004:
"it is sad to relate that no great invention
has come for many hundred years from Muslim countries."
magazine, Issue 6, Summer 2007,
advocates hacking attacks against Israel.
Shame on the World Council of Churches
and anyone who associates with them.
Note their support for the
anti-Israel Irish charity
"I feel very strongly that economic links to America have made us very blind to the moral issues",
said the Archbishop, who thinks that the moral issue is to oppose, not support, the war.
"I think as a nation there has not been sufficient questioning of these rendition flights and the link of Ireland with the war in Iraq, whether we like it or not.
I feel that the Irish Government have compromised themselves.
People will say that politics always has an element of compromise, but I believe one of the chief moral issues of today is the issue of war."Again, this arrogant assertion that morality is on his side
rather than on his opponents' side.
He just assumes his opponents are driven by economic greed, or some other compromise.
It never seems to occur to him that his opponents are driven by morality too.
Tony Allwright says
it is shocking that people like John Neill,
and members of the Green Party,
"have such little regard for one of the Arab world's few constitutional democracies
that they likewise would wish to impede its legitimate Government's desire for foreign assistance in trying to bring security to its beleaguered people.
Ireland should be proud of its small contribution in making Shannon available to the brave American soldiers as they try to help the Iraqis.
and her cohorts should be ashamed of their obstructionism and the additional loss of Iraqi life this could entail were they successful in thwarting the Americans."
Susan Hood, of the
Church of Ireland's Representative Church Body,
leads an Irish ecumenical (Anglican, Catholic, Methodist, Presbyterian)
visit to the Holy Land in 2008.
I admire her historical work,
but she seems to understand little about the Arab-Israeli conflict.
"to identify with the plight of 200,000 Christians left in Israel/Palestine."
She says Christians are
"now diminished to just 2 per cent of the overall population".
But for some reason
she has no interest in saying why.
(The triumphant, all-pervasive Islamism that increasingly makes it impossible to be
a non-Muslim under the Hamas and Fatah Islamic regimes.)
For some reason, she does not complain about the oppression of Christians by Islamists,
the hatred and incitement to murder
in Palestinian schools and TV,
the vile terror attacks against women and children,
and the lack of democracy or any desire for peace among the Palestinians.
she complains about counter-terrorism measures that would be removed the day the terror threat ended.
She complains about
"the devastating effects of the Separation Wall"
and so on, as if these were the causes of the conflict.
As long as people in the West think this way,
Christians in the Palestinian territories have a bleak future.
to Susan Hood:
"I was disappointed and a little shocked that neither she nor the churchmen she interviewed saw fit to mention the chief reason for much Christian suffering in the region, namely the attacks on Christians and on churches by militant Muslim groups.
These attacks, many resulting in bloodshed and murder, have been calculated attempts to remove a non-Muslim presence from Gaza and the West Bank. The Christian population there has declined severely, whereas the community in Israel has increased steadily over the past 60 years. Other religious minorities in Israel - notably the Baha'is, a community persecuted or banned in all Muslim countries - have flourished. By ignoring this disparity, the article leaves the reader with a broad impression that Israel is to blame for all these problems.
How far from the truth that is."
Rev. Patrick Comerford, 6 Aug 2012,
declares that Israel is more of a problem than Iran or Syria or North Korea!
"Meanwhile, three countries remain outside the NPT regime ... India, Pakistan and Israel, each with its own nuclear capacity ... These are real threats to our survival, more so than the imaginary threats posed at the moment by Iran, Syria and North Korea."
He cannot understand why America would treat democracies different to dictatorships:
"It is hypocrisy that the US ... is applying economic sanctions and threatening military action against Iran which has not got a single nuclear weapon, while the US opposes any sanctions against Israel, which has as many as 400 nuclear warheads".
He wants America to treat democracies the same as dictatorships!
The moral sickness of the modern church was made clear
in Feb 2003,
when the Pope granted an audience to the Iraqi butcher
trying to find a way to help him and his fellow mass-murdering thugs
stay in power.
Aziz prayed at the tomb of St. Francis of Assisi
and called for "peace".
The Pope did not condemn Aziz's regime.
The unholy "Christian" case against war
by Christopher Hitchens, March 10, 2003.
Hitchens is, like me, an atheist amused by the church opposition
to the War on Saddam's Iraq in 2003.
People regard this as having some moral force,
ignoring the churches' appalling record on war.
The church did not support the Allies in World War Two, for example.
On economics, the Catholic church also at some point, without anyone noticing,
became bog-standard socialists.
Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, Jan 2009, rather overreacts to the present financial crisis:
"he went on to say that in 1989, with the collapse of the Berlin wall, that 'communism had died'.
In 2008, he said, 'capitalism had died'."
"Want a bet?", is all I'll say.
Go away and come back in 10 years and see who's right - me or the churchman.
- The Catholic church runs a range of Anti-Israel and Anti-American charities.
He says about the Iranian terror masters:
"they have then chosen to put their faith into action to resolve the situation.
Faith in a forgiving God has been exemplified in action by their good deeds.
They are offering to release the sailors and marines, not just as the result of diplomacy,
but also as an act of mercy in accordance with their religion."
Their "religion" being eastern despotism, cruelty,
and the arbitrary whims of tyrants.
"We all profess to hold a faith that comes from Abraham - the Father of all Nations."
No we don't.
"We all adore the one, merciful God, who will be mankind's judge on the last day."
I don't, and he will not be, and there will be no such day.
"All nations form one community: we come from the one God who created us,"
No we don't.
There is no evidence we were created by anyone.
"and we will return to the one God as our common destiny."
Again, nonsense. We will not "return" anywhere.
I guess if Thomas Burns believes all this made-up nonsense,
it's no surprise he is impressed that the Iranian thugs believe the same.
Catholic Archbishop of Sydney, Cardinal George Pell, 2006:
"In my own reading of the Koran, I began to note down invocations to violence.
There are so many of them, however, that I abandoned this exercise after 50 or 60 or 70 pages."
Pope John Paul II,
who once stood up to Soviet tyranny,
"At this hour of sadness at the passing of President Yasser Arafat ...
While entrusting his soul into the hands of the Almighty and Merciful God ...".
Whatever moral authority the pope had during the Cold War,
he's burnt it now.
"Zionism Will Not Tolerate Doctrine of Christ",
The Irish Catholic, 19 May 1949.
Shows Irish and European Catholic reaction to the foundation of Israel in 1948.
Is it any wonder that the church and its charities are often anti-Israel today?
See full size.
The Irish Catholic above approvingly quotes
a 1949 broadcast by Vatican Radio, which declares that
"Zionism is a new Nazism".
(Not that the Vatican was particularly opposed
to actual Nazism during the war.)
The Pope is an Argentine nationalist, which suggests he will have crap politics on many topics.
The Pope's disgusting views on the Falklands.
As a Cardinal in 2012 he said at a service for Argentine soldiers who died in the Falklands War:
"We come to pray for all who have fallen, sons of the homeland who went out to defend their mother, the homeland, and to reclaim what is theirs, that is of the homeland, and it was usurped."
In 2009 he described the Falklands as:
"this land which is ours
... the native soil."
As an atheist with no interest in the absurd doctrines of Catholicism, I ultimately must agree
with a comment here:
"Well he's wrong about a lot of things, so it's no surprise he's wrong about the Falklands as well."
"The spirit of curiosity generates confusion and distances a person from the Spirit of wisdom, which brings peace, said Pope Francis in his homily during Thursday morning Mass at Casa Santa Marta."
The crazy holy man said it was wrong:
"when we want to be the masters of the projects of God, of the future, of things, to know everything, to have everything in hand ...
The spirit of curiosity distances us from the Spirit of wisdom because all that interests us is the details, the news, the little stories of the day.
And the spirit of curiosity is not a good spirit. It is the spirit of dispersion, of distancing oneself from God, the spirit of talking too much. And Jesus also tells us something interesting: this spirit of curiosity, which is worldly, leads us to confusion."
Ironically, without curiosity, Christianity would never have started:
In Acts 17,
is in the great old city of
and discovers both scepticism and curiosity.
As he explains
the ludicrous new religion of Christianity,
"certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoics"
"What will this babbler say?"
But others want to know more,
because of that wonderful Athenian curiosity.
"For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing."
Paul doesn't seem to admire that curiosity much.
Talk about ingratitude!
Not all bad:
recognized the Armenian Genocide
when he was a Cardinal,
and he caused uproar with the culprits Turkey by repeating that when Pope.
Not everything he does is crap.
Pope Francis comes out against a US strike on Assad's Syria, 2 Sept 2013:
"War never again! Never again war!" I criticise the Pope
to his face:
"Are you the same fellow who defended the Falklands invasion by Argentina?"
Isn't Twitter fun!
The Pope said:
"The freedom of expression ... Every one of us has not just the freedom, the right, but also the obligation to say what he thinks to help build the common good. ... We have the obligation to freely have this liberty,
but without offending. ... But, if Dr. Gasbarri, my great friend, says something against my mother,
he can expect a punch. It's normal. It's normal.
You cannot provoke, you cannot insult the faith of others, you cannot make fun of the faith. ... So many people speak against others' religions. They make fun of them. ... But they are provoking, and what can happen is what I said about Dr. Gasbarri if he says something about my mother. There is a limit. Every religion has dignity; I cannot mock a religion that respects human life and the human person. And this is a limit."
Shameful. What a disgraceful speech.
The sooner the church gets new leadership the better.
(Brian Keith Dalton)
responds in a video called
"Fuck The Pope!"
He is very rude, but the Pope is asking for it.
"Fuck you, asshole.
I not only can make fun of the faith of others,
I do it professionally, you sick, totalitarian bastard.
Your claim to be connected to some higher power gets you no pass from criticism, ridicule and mockery,
you self-important jerkwad.
So fuck you, Pope Francis, you terrorist sympathiser.
I will mock the faith of others all I want.
That is my right as a human being.
That's it. You stupid hat-wearing son of a bitch."
Placards at a disgusting
anti-Charlie Hebdo march in London, Feb 2015.
The Pope is now inspiring Islamic threats of violence.
Is this the worst Pope of my lifetime?