As I say on the
Islam in the West
most Muslim immigrants come to the West precisely because they support its freedoms
and want to escape failed states ruled by clerics and Islamic dictators.
We have a duty to let these freedom-loving Muslims in.
Western Muslims are the most liberal, tolerant, pro-democracy Muslims in the world.
All the dissidents are here
- the religious dissidents,
the political dissidents,
the feminist dissidents, and
the gay dissidents.
All the dissident works
- such as criticism of Islam and
- are published in the West.
This is all much to be celebrated.
However, there is a substantial minority
who threaten our western freedoms.
- essentially religious fascists who want to impose their religious beliefs
on the rest of us.
What to do about these aggressors is one of the questions of our time.
The divided, tormented mind of the British Islamist: Anjem Choudary
enjoys all the innocent pleasures of western freedom
while at university in 1991.
Later, he turns into a humourless, guilt-ridden, hate-filled Islamist fundamentalist, who says that
what he did should be illegal, and strictly punished by sharia.
You would almost feel sorry for him.
The younger Choudary was much more attractive.
Which side - freedom or fundamentalism - will triumph among young western Muslims?
My bet is on freedom.
For every young Muslim attracted by the austerity of jihad and sharia,
two more will be attracted by sex, atheism and freedom.
Islam in the west will survive,
but it will become relaxed
and tolerant of criticism and apostasy (as Christianity has become).
The Daily Mail, 14th March 2009.
The magazine is
vol 26 no 4
Liaison Dangereuse lingerie,
showing woman wearing lingerie under a burka.
In July 2010, Jeremy Clarkson
mentioned that he had seen a woman wearing lingerie under a burka.
As a result, enemy jihadi
issued thinly veiled death threats to Jeremy Clarkson:
"I would urge Clarkson to make a full and public apology ... Otherwise his safety could be at risk."
also appears to threaten singer
Cheryl Cole with death, Sept 2011, for visiting the troops in Afghanistan:
"She has put herself in great danger ...
She will only have herself to blame for the repercussions on her own security."
Isn't it long past time that
was rounded up
and sent to Guantanamo POW camp
until the war is over?
It shows hatred, religious bigotry, jihad,
and a coming violent revolution against Britain,
being preached at some mainstream British mosques.
and sex with children.
They call for the killing of homosexuals.
They call for the beating, jailing and killing
of people who do not say their prayers
to a being called "Allah"
(which they believe exists).
Congratulations to Channel 4 for doing this important service,
and congratulations to their awesomely brave undercover reporter,
who is presumably an actually moderate Muslim.
Britain needs to get serious about this issue.
Britain cannot simply stand by as these preachers breed the next generation of
These preachers have no business living in the West,
and should be jailed or deported.
Almost every Briton agrees with me.
16 percent of British Muslims support the "cause" of the London bombers.
These people should not be living in the West.
If they do not believe in freedom, they should not live in the free world.
They should leave.
That is, 40 percent of British Muslims want to end our western liberties.
They just want to do it peacefully.
If ever they are in the majority, they will end British freedom.
The poll shows 41 percent of British Muslims don't want sharia law.
And of course they may win the argument,
as, over time, British Muslims finally come to understand and appreciate
what a free society is.
Still, 40 percent in favour is an appalling number.
It is a strong argument for restricting Islamic immigration
until current Muslims integrate better.
no one who believes in sharia law should be allowed into the West.
37 percent of young British Muslims want Sharia law in Britain.
36 percent of young British Muslims think apostates should be killed.
13 percent of young British Muslims said they "admired" Al Qaeda.
The stats for older British Muslims are much better.
Maybe the young will ditch their fascist views as they grow up.
Or maybe, disturbingly,
the young show what the British Muslims of the future will look like.
The author of the survey above is the fantastic young Muslim woman
(British-born daughter of Pakistani immigrants).
discussed the survey
that is now gone
Brilliantly, she declines to blame it all on "Iraq" or "Israel"
or some other mythical root cause.
Instead, she blames it on
and the patronising left-liberal habit of treating immigrants
as members of groups and tribes,
rather than as individuals and freethinking citizens.
This has helped alienate young British Muslims from British society,
and forced them to look for an alternative identity.
Brilliantly, she points out that the alternative to multiculturalism,
that is, a proposed unifying culture of Britain,
does not have to be an exclusivist, ethnic, monocultural Anglo-Saxon tribalism,
nor does it have to be just a bland, valueless, greedy consumer society.
Rather the unifying culture of Britain
should be the universal values of the western Enlightenment.
This is what every British immigrant can and should sign up to.
Munira Mirza really speaks my language.
I, and people like me, understand the values to promote
to get immigrants to integrate into the West.
The liberal left don't.
Their values will lead to tribalism, alienation, bigotry, racism,
ethnic conflict, and in the long-term
possibly even civil war.
Munira Mirza is now an advisor to the Mayor of London, Boris Johnson.
40 percent support the introduction of sharia for British Muslims.
33 percent support a worldwide Islamic caliphate based on sharia.
"England is a cesspit. England is the breeding ground of fundamentalist Muslims."
- Shocking words from
winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature,
angry at the radicalisation of the Nigerian
Flight 253 bomber
while he was a student in Britain.
Reported 3 Feb 2010.
Image from here.
He may exaggerate, but what is the world coming to when foreign intellectuals complain about the jihad
being exported from England?
(He's not the only one.)
In 1989 Iqbal Sacranie
said about the threats against
"Death, perhaps, is a bit too easy for him?
His mind must be tormented for the rest of his life
unless he asks for forgiveness to Almighty Allah."
thinks Rushdie's book
should be illegal.
Instead of his usual kid gloves treatment,
the "moderate" Iqbal Sacranie gets a proper grilling
as he tries to dodge question after question.
Transcript - the weasel words of Iqbal Sacranie
tries to avoid condemning Hamas,
tries to avoid condemning some of the MCB's extremist affiliates,
and tries to avoid condemning the preaching
that the War on Terror is a War on Islam. (*)
(*) The War on Terror is, of course, a War on Islamism,
but that is something all moderate Muslims should support.
on the Rushdie case.
He supported killing Rushdie for speech when he was young:
"on February 14 1989, when the Iranian Islamic leader, Imam Khomeini delivered his fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie's death, I was truly elated
It seems crazy now, but I really did believe that some committee of learned elders should vet all books before they could be sold to the public.".
But he has grown up a bit since:
"I will readily acknowledge that we were wrong to have called for the book to be banned
Our detractors had been right. The freedom to offend is a necessary freedom.".
Good for him.
I'd like to see him condemn blasphemy laws in Islamic countries too
(not just in Britain).
Inayat Bunglawala, Dec 2007,
refuses to condemn
Islamic states that impose
the death penalty for apostasy.
"He did not do so, merely commenting that "it was a matter for those states"."
"The MCB should issue a public statement which makes it absolutely clear that apostates have a right to change or abandon their faith, both in this country and abroad, publicly or privately, and to proselytise freely: and that their apostasy may be countered only by persuasion.
If the MCB wants to demonstrate that they have a role to play in the mainstream of public life, then it would be sensible for them to make their institutional position on this issue absolutely clear."
on the Muslim Council of Britain
and the death penalty for apostasy.
As Harry's Place says:
"credit where credit is due".
Could the annoying Bunglawala
turn out to be an Islamic reformer?
It may be a false dawn,
but on the other hand Islam may change slowly for the better this century. People do change their minds.
On the other hand:
writes for the website of
There is no explanation for why
"a supposedly liberal political commentator is writing uncritical articles on the website of a leading fascist."
They pretend to be in favour of free speech:
"Libraries remain sources of information through which debate and ideas are shaped on a range of issues.
The removal of books by these sorts of authors simply plays into the hands of those on the right who seek to censor and limit free speech. Given the unique role our libraries play, such a move would be unfortunate and would impact on the wonderful diversity of books that our libraries currently have on offer."
Jihad Watch, December 4, 2010, replies:
"Here, "diversity" serves the cause of Islam. How about when it doesn't? How about a little Geert Wilders on the shelves? A little something from Kurt Westergaard? Ayaan Hirsi Ali? Wafa Sultan? One could go on and on."
For some reason,
feels the need to print these religious fanatics
- just because they are fundamentalist Muslims.
It would not print them if they were fundamentalist Christians.
has expressed support for Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Khomenei,
suicide bombings and the destruction of Israel.
Azzam Tamimi on Israel
"anybody in the world, with faith or without faith,
must come together in order to eradicate this cancer from the body of humanity.
Do you know why Tony Blair, George Bush, and all the members of this camp are so worried?
They are worried because they know the world can see clearly today that Israel is a menace,
is a threat to humanity. They can no longer fool anybody and
they are worried that
this spoiled baby of theirs is about to be thrown out of this human body of ours.
It is just a matter of time.
This black chapter in the history of humanity will eventually come to an end"
of Azzam Tamimi in the speech above
with Azzam Tamimi pretending to be moderate with a credulous NPR host.
"MPAC's world view is simple. We are at War.
MPAC believes every Muslim man woman and child is a target in that War.
And we believe that it is FARD
upon every capable Adult to defend the Ummah.
We also adopt the position that every Muslim who does not participate in that war
is committing a crime against those they allow to be murdered, raped and persecuted
and against his or her Lord.
Whether or not the failing to take part in Jihad to protect the Ummah leads
one into hypocrisy and out of the fold of Islam is something we have not found the answer too.
When innocent people are murdered one has no option but to act with time or money
to fight the Jihad. This is beyond any reasonable doubt to any thinking man
Those ACTIVE Muslims who will give their time to the Jihad,
or their money, are few in number, and no single organisation can take these enemies on.
The few willing to fight are poor, under funded, man power starved Muslim organisations
and they cannot compete. There is a capability Gap between the enemy and us.
A Gap that must be bridged if we have any hope of protecting ourselves."
"The enemy even when in the open is immune from any counter action by the Muslims,
such is the deep coma these institutions have put us in.
This can be seen no more clearly then in the case of powerful members of Parliament backing Israel.
These men are comfortable, they know that the thousands of Muslims that elected them
are so ignorant and comatose that they can attack Muslims without
any form of action or challenge by the Muslims and their institutions.
This is a fact, and can proven by the election of
the Vice Chairman of the friends of Israel
by 15000 Muslim zombies
eight years in a row.
Not one Muslim has taken it upon himself to remove him.
This highlights more then any other the Zombie like state we are in."
What does "remove him" mean?
This sounds like a threat against an MP.
If MPAC are making threats like this, they should be made an illegal organisation.
Other "Moderate" Muslims in the UK
Islamic "Human Rights" Commission
complains about just about any criticism of Islam
If they supposedly believe in "Human Rights", shouldn't they believe in the
right to free speech to criticise any religion or political ideology?
After all, I am an atheist and a neo-conservative who believes in human rights,
and I firmly believe in the right of anyone to criticise atheism or neo-conservatism.
On the Rushdie knighthood, Lord Ahmed
is quoted as
"Actually I was appalled to hear that Salman Rushdie had been given [a] knighthood, particularly when this man has been very divisive.
This man - as you can see - not only provoked violence around the world because of his writings, but there were many people that were killed around the world and honouring the man who has blood on his hands, sort of because of what he did, honouring him I think is going a bit too far."
If this is an accurate quote, then Lord Ahmed should be expelled from the Labour Party.
How dare he blame the victim of violence for the violence?
Why doesn't he blame the medieval savages that actually carried out the violence?
Reformed ex-Islamist Ed Husain says:
"Geert Wilders is undoubtedly an ill-informed, hate-driven bigot with many unpleasant views but he is not directly inciting violence. As a result, unlike in the case of Yusuf al-Qaradawi, I do not support the decision to ban him from the UK. By threatening parliament with a mob, Lord Ahmed is contributing to the negative portrayal of Muslims and their religion."
Lord Ahmed made
in an interview on Pakistani TV in April 2012.
These were reported in English in the UK media in March 2013.
He was suspended by the Labour Party.
They attack Britain's lukewarm "support" for Israel:
"the type of unqualified support given to Israel by the current Government is not conducive to British national interests as this could damage Britain's relationships with 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide
An incoming Conservative Administration should accept that pro-zionist attitude will not bode well with many. Pro-zionist statements would only damage relationship with Muslims nationally and internationally.".
"Irrespective of one's views of theocracy, the current Iranian regime was established by a popular revolution, ... and has a significant measure of domestic support. ... hostility to Iran is not in Britain's national interest.
Furthermore, Iran has many legitimate security concerns, being surrounded by, what is to them, potentially hostile powers. Instead of joining the United States in demonising Iran, Britain should assist Iran in addressing these legitimate security concerns"
On preachers of hate like
"We disagree with the suggestion that "foreign preachers and scholars advocating the rejection of the institutions and values of democracy" should be denied entry into Britain.
While we may disagree with many views of
we feel it is inaccurate for the Policy Group to question his status as a leading Islamic scholar.
Yusuf al-Qaradawi is considered a leading scholar by other many Muslims, including Muslim scholars."
On Iran's desire for nuclear weapons:
"Given Iran's position in the Middle East, facing a nuclear-armed Israel, Iran appears to have legitimate reasons for seeking nuclear weapons for defensive purposes."
Tories here say,
what are these weirdos doing in the Conservative party?
Shouldn't they be in a party more suited to them,
such as RESPECT?
Baroness Warsi, 20 Jan 2011, condemns "Islamophobia" in Britain with no proper attempt to define it.
With only a token nod to Islamic violence,
she says "Islamophobia" is bigotry:
"Islamophobia has now crossed the threshold of middle class respectability.
Islamophobia is seen as a legitimate - even commendable - thing.
You could even say that Islamophobia has now passed the dinner-table-test.
But of course, Islamophobia should be seen as totally abhorrent".
It is not clear that fear of Islam is irrational
when so many Muslims openly threaten our freedom with talk of sharia law.
Yes, it is not liberal Muslims like Warsi who do this.
But she should direct her speech at them, and not at infidels who, quite understandably, fear them.
Islam is the only religion that behaves like this (says it wants to force us to live under religious law).
And it is the only religion that bombs us.
If people fear Islam, it is Islam's fault.
After all, people don't fear Hinduism or Buddhism.
Most British people support freedom of religion.
They just don't like a religion that issues threats and violence.
points out that most people had (quite rightly) no interest in Islam until recently:
"the Muslim faith was not discussed over the dinner tables of England, nor in the saloon bars, before large numbers of Muslims came here to our country".
Islam has nothing intellectually to contribute to the world.
So it would be nice to ignore it, the way we ignore Hinduism and Buddhism.
But we are forced to pay attention to it,
because of the behaviour of Muslims.
No wonder people are hostile to it.
Hostility towards annoying religions is only to be expected.
A comment asks:
"Has prejudice against Scientology
or evangelical Christian sects "passed the dinner-table test"?
I rather think it has, and they haven't even bombed us yet.
So no idea why she's surprised people aren't falling over themselves gushing about how great Islam is."
In her speech
who supports the jihad.
Islamist influenced groups, mosques and media outlets
These are a selection of the various groups and institutions active in the UK which are broadly sympathetic to Islamism.
Whilst only a small proportion will agree with al-Qaeda's tactics, many will agree with their overall goal of creating a single 'Islamic state' which would bring together all Muslims around the world under a single government and then impose on them a single interpretation of sharia as state law.
Local and central government should be wary of
engagement with these groups
as it risks empowering proponents of the ideology, if not the methodology, that is behind terrorism.
of Quilliam says:
"we oppose banning non-violent extremists ... yet we see no reason why tax payers should subsidise them. It is in this context that we wish to raise awareness around Islamism."
The disgusting Seumas Milne
calls Ed Husain "a British neocon pinup boy".
But as a neo-con myself, I can see clear water between Husain and me.
He is still trying to defend Islam, after all.
where he bashes parts of the counterjihad,
and still defends Mohammed as a moral guide.
Still, anyone who produces the above list is on the right side as far as I'm concerned.
One point is lost in the discussion about the lack of moderate Muslim groups
in Britain, and it is this.
Moderate British Muslims, who support British society,
are far more likely to want to join mainstream British organisations,
rather than set up their own separate Muslim sectarian group.
Muslim groups are likely to be inherently extremist, tribal, insular,
religiously conservative, non-moderate,
or otherwise unpleasant.
They will almost by definition
attract those who are alienated from British society.
Whereas the many British Muslims who are well integrated and successful
will have little interest in joining some whining tribal grievance group.
Muslim groups do not (and never will) represent British Muslims.
Nick Spencer, 22 Feb 2010, is baffled at British Muslims' refusal to have the beliefs he thinks they should have:
He thinks they should all oppose the Iraq and Afghan wars
(he probably thinks all Muslims in
opposed the wars),
and so he thinks they should all oppose Labour.
He is baffled at Muslims' continuing support for Labour.
He actually openly defends identity politics.
On the concept that Muslims might be individuals, he is incredulous:
"it would mean that attempts to court the Muslim vote, or even engage with the Muslim community, are misguided.
That might make psephological
sense but intuitively it seems wrong. The shift from ethnic to religious identity politics over the last two decades cannot have been one big mistake."
Oh no. It could not possibly be a mistake.
As Harry's Place
Spencer nearly develops a clue,
but then the darkness comes over again.
Spencer illustrates clearly how the right treats people as individuals,
whereas the left treats them as members of pre-defined collectives.
So the left cannot just treat me as an individual, but points out that I am
a white man (who therefore should not criticise Obama),
a westerner (who therefore should not criticise Muslims),
or am I an Irishman (and therefore a victim myself), and so on.
The left has a lot of trouble with
anyone who breaks out of their pre-defined role.
Ex-jihadis describe how left-wing Britain failed to integrate them:
"From the right, there was the brutal nativist cry of "Go back where you came from!" But from the left, there was its mirror-image: a gooey multicultural sense that immigrants didn't want liberal democratic values and should be exempted from them. Again and again, they described how at school they were treated as "the funny foreign child", and told to "explain their customs" to the class. It patronised them into alienation.
"Nobody ever said - you're equal to us, you're one of us, and we'll hold you to the same standards," says Husain. "Nobody had the courage to stand up for liberal democracy without qualms. When people like us at [Newham] College were holding events against women and against gay people, where were our college principals and teachers, challenging us?"
Without an identity, they created their own. It was fierce and pure and violent, and it admitted no doubt."
Al-Ghurabaa meeting in Birmingham, July 2006,
laughs at and mocks the 9/11 victims,
threatens more London bombings,
and threatens all the Jews of Europe.
The audience roar laughing at the beheading of
What are these sick, deranged people doing living in Britain?
Why aren't they rounded up, jailed and deported?
Most Britons agree that extremist Islamists should be deported:
Britain is finally becoming less hospitable
to the fascist enemies of Britain:
Al-Muhajiroun disbanded in the face of an impending ban.
Its successors Al Ghurabaa and the Saved Sect
and Muslims Against Crusades
for glorification of terrorism.
Their vile members were jailed for 4 to 6 years for the
Abu Hamza was jailed for 7 years for soliciting murder and inciting racial hatred,
and was then extradited to the US in Oct 2012.
Abu Izzadeen was
jailed for 4 and a half years
for inciting terrorism
(he is now out).
has been deported.
jihad gang has been jailed for life.
transatlantic aircraft plot
Revolution Muslim / Islam4UK
The UK has been trying to deport
and still cannot.
deserve to be deported?
In 2009, Al-Qaeda jihadis
kidnapped and beheaded
utterly innocent British tourist
to try to force Britain to release
That tells you all you need to know about Abu Qatada.
The (very catchy)
by British fascists
and the "Soul Salah Crew".
Great fun, but seriously,
everyone involved in this video should be expelled, not just from Britain, but from the West entirely.
Almost every Briton agrees with me.
Islamofascists march for sharia in London, June 2010.
All these people should be deported.
Anjem Choudary, Abu Izzadeen and the enemy group
Muslims Against Crusades spew threats in front of the American Embassy, London, 11 Sept 2011, as they celebrate 9/11.
10 years after 9/11, the enemy is still allowed live in the West.
The radical leftist
Mayor of London 2000-08,
came out against the London bombings in 2005.
But he has been a long-time
the extremist religious fascist
Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, who supports identical suicide attacks on civilians in Israel.
Ken Livingstone works for Iranian state TV.
Iran has helped kill hundreds of British soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Toby Young says:
"I cannot see any meaningful difference between Ken Livingstone and Lord Haw-Haw."
Ken Livingstone, May 2011, says that future Islamic attacks on London will be caused, not by Islamism, but by ... people celebrating the death of Bin Laden!
"Mr Livingstone warned that the scenes of jubilation across the US would "heighten" the threat of another terror attack on London
"I just looked at it and realised that it would increase the likelihood of a terror attack on London ...
it's a very dangerous time at the moment.""
thinks his own beliefs about
should govern everyone in society,
even those who don't believe in them.
He explicitly rejects separation of state and church
and freedom of religion.
He demands"that the UN adopt a clear resolution or law that categorically prohibits affronts to prophets
- to the prophets of the Lord and His messengers, to His holy books,
and the religious holy places."
He supports death for atheists like me and homosexuals.
and female genital mutilation.
He supports forcing women to wear the hijab.
blames rape victims who dress immodestly.
He supports the Iraqi fascist resistance.
He supports the
He supports Hamas.
He supports the killing of innocent Jewish civilians, including children, in Israel.
He supports the destruction of Israel.
for the killing of the monster
but not for
the children Yassin killed.
He supports the Holocaust.
Al-Qaradawi is exactly the kind of hate-filled preacher
who should be kept out of Britain.
Al-Qaradawi on homosexuals:
"The schools of thought disagree about the punishment.
Some say we should throw them from a high place, like God did with the people of Sodom.
Some say we should burn them, and so on. There is disagreement."
Don't just listen to me.
Listen to moderate Muslims petitioning the UN,
calling for a treaty banning the use of religion for incitement to violence.
condemn the "sheikhs of death"
who incite terror.
They name Al-Qaradawi,
who they accuse of "providing a religious cover for terrorism".
They even call for people like him to be brought before an international court.
praises Hitler and the Holocaust.
spews Israel-hatred and America-hatred
on the state TV
of the terror state of Iran,
which threatens a genocide of the Jews of Israel,
which funds the killing of brave British and American troops in Iraq,
and which funds and encourages Shia-Sunni sectarian slaughter in Iraq.
Livingstone calls it a "tragedy" that the dictator
(who gassed Yemen,
killed Jewish civilians,
and wanted to carry out a second Holocaust of the Jews of Israel)
in his aim to "unite" the Arab Muslim world.
Strangely, Livingstone comes out against the London bombings.
Maher quotes Nawaz:
"Anyone worried about what I'm saying should get involved in the debate. You are allowed to dissent, that is a right."
"But is that a right in Islam, to dissent?"
"Course it is. Why do you think there's so many schools of thought?
Why do you think there's .."
"Well it wasn't a right for Salman Rushdie."
"See that Salman Rushdie was there to provoke, insult,
and he did it intentionally right. I'm not .."
"But, should you die for that?"
"No, what I mean like, you know, that was ...
You know it's easy for you to say things kind of in black and white. But it's more complex than that.
There's actually, there's emotions and passions and philosophy involved, and all that stuff.
And then .."
"You know, all you got to say is it's wrong for someone to have to suffer a death threat for writing a book."
"Well hang on .."
"But, apparently, it's more complicated than that."
"Well it is, because .. I mean, Western .."
"But, you want that protection for yourself."
"I think these debates are ... I'm willing to discuss them in terms of facts and not fictions."
"But you don't see there's
a fundamental hypocrisy for you asking for the right to dissent and somebody else getting a death threat."
"No, because my dissent is to stop the madness."
What a creepy hypocrite.
Bill Maher's takedown of Aki Nawaz
comes about 80 percent of the way through
Click to play
part 1 and
Censorship in the UK
- The UK has a range of laws that criminalise "offensive" speech of various kinds.
Many of these awful, vaguely-worded laws
could easily be used to implement strict sharia controls on speech.
This campaign may be anti-sharia but it is linked to the anti-American, anti-Israel
Robert Spencer v. Maryam Namazie.
is unimpressed by Namazie being anti-Israel and yet also claiming to be anti-jihad:
"An anti-jihadist who doesn't support the country on the front lines of the global jihad? Pull my other leg."
against the gay-hating,
under the Public Order Act.
The gays were arrested - not the Islamists!
The gays correctly said:
"These arrests have undermined attempts to improve relations between the police and the lesbian and gay community.
The police appear to be siding with those who want to kill us."
Without defending everything the issue said,
what I want to focus on is the idea that they could be prosecuted partly for
calling Islam "this barmy doctrine".
Such a statement, about any belief, must always be legal.
To make such a statement illegal is sharia.
of the neo-Nazi
was arrested in 2004
for an attack on Islam.
He was prosecuted.
Here is his
attack on Islam,
which was filmed secretly for a BBC documentary The Secret Agent.
the BNP is an obnoxious neo-Nazi group.
I can't stand them, and
their supporters hate me.
But, without defending everything (or anything) Griffin said,
what I want to focus on is the idea that he could be prosecuted partly for
describing Islam as follows:
"this wicked, vicious faith has expanded
from a handful of cranky lunatics about 1,300 years ago".
Such a statement must always be legal.
It should be perfectly legal to describe any religion
(or any other belief system such as communism or capitalism) as evil.
To make such a statement illegal is sharia.
The prosecution failed. In 2006 a jury cleared him of all charges.
"Rulings issued by a network of five sharia courts are enforceable with the full power of the judicial system
Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi .. said he had taken advantage of a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.
Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law,
provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case."
Domestic violence against women now legalised.
"In the six cases of domestic violence, Siddiqi said the judges ordered the husbands to take anger management classes and mentoring from community elders. There was no further punishment.
In each case, the women subsequently withdrew the complaints they had lodged with the police"
"Leaving a substantial number of (nonwhite) British women to the mercies of this antique barbarism seems to me both sexist and racist, but what do I know?"
The Gateshead foster mother case - UK social workers trying to enforce sharia law.
"council officials allegedly accused [the foster mother]
of failing to 'respect and preserve' the child's faith and tried to persuade the girl to reconsider her decision."
Of course, it is the council officials who are failing to respect the girl's religious faith.
What are the bets that these "council officials" are Muslim?
"council officials told the girl that she should not attend any church activity for six months, so that she could reconsider the wisdom of becoming a Christian."
These officials should be named, and we should be told if they are Muslim.
The foster parent
"received a phone call from the fostering manager who was 'incandescent with rage' that the baptism had gone ahead."
Is the fostering manager a Muslim?
We should be told.
The foster parent is reinstated, July 2010.
The girl was put in foster care in the first place after she was
"threatened with an arranged marriage and faced violence from her family."
She "had been assaulted by a family member."
And now she has Gateshead Council attacking her religious freedom.
Sebastian Faulks, Sunday Times, August 23, 2009, speaks about Islam.
He is shocked after reading the Koran for the first time:
"it has no ethical dimension like the New Testament, no new plan for life. It says 'the Jews and the Christians were along the right tracks, but actually, they were wrong and I'm right, and if you don't believe me, tough - you'll burn for ever.' That's basically the message of the book.
Jesus, unlike Muhammad, had interesting things to say. He proposed a revolutionary way of looking at the world: love your neighbour, love your enemy, be kind to people, the meek shall inherit the Earth. Muhammad had nothing to say to the world other than, 'If you don't believe in God you will burn forever.'"
If Islam was a forgiving, understanding religion that allowed freedom of speech and freedom of opinion, then this grovelling humiliation of an apology wouldn't be necessary, now would it?"
"What a backdown. Threats? Fear? His book being burned? It simply confirms the view of many that Islam is an unforgiving religion that cannot tolerate even the mildest of criticisms".
Though I sympathise with
"I can't say that I blame. The way of the anti-jihadist is hard and not for every infidel. I think it is safe to assume that only his first comments were honest."
"He's not married to his opinion. He's certainly not going to jeopardise his life and the lives of his family, friends and colleagues. He doesn't want to turn his back on his current lifestyle and live in safe houses waiting for Islam reform.
So he issues a hasty retraction. Honestly, who wouldn't? Robert, Daniel, Pamela, Hugh and Geert. That's who. And that's part of the reason why I admire them."
His research was for his novel
A Week in December (2009),
which, by the way, is a fine book.
It's not particularly daring,
though I did like the fact that the jihadis planned to attack a London hospital.
Christianity Has Been Demoted By The Political Class, 11 Dec 2009, by Theodore Dalrymple (an atheist), notes the official hostility to Christianity:
"By far the most significant thing about the case against Benjamin and Sharon Vogelenzang was that it reached a court of law in the first place.
For myself I do not much care to be buttonholed by religious enthusiasts but in a free country that is a situation with which citizens must be expected to cope on their own without resort to the courts."
Reading University Students Union kicks atheist society out of freshers' fair, Oct 2012, for displaying a pineapple labelled “Mohammed”.
Student Unions enforcing reactionary religious blasphemy laws.
They wouldn't if it was Christianity.
Hate speech against Christianity:
"They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers.
They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve."
What book contains such hate speech?
It must surely be banned.
It's, um, the Quran.
Outrageous. This is sharia law.
No free, secular society should
care if a person does this.
No free, secular society should respect any alleged "holy" book.
It seems clear now in Britain that
the Bible can be desecrated but not the Koran
- despite the fact that
the Koran inspires 100 times more bloodshed, terror, war, rape and oppression than the Bible
(in the modern world at least).
Despite this, the Koran still cannot be desecrated as a protest against the
ocean of blood
spilt by its followers every year.
One suspects that it is
because of that ocean of blood
that it cannot be desecrated.
Owens was reported to the police by Britain's dhimmi Sunday newspaper, The Observer.
Some "liberal" newspaper this is!
points out that a desecrated Bible is on display in Glasgow's Gallery of Modern Art,
while a man is arrested for desecrating the Koran.
"we are reminded time and again that the burning of the Qur'an is one of the most offensive acts to Muslims that could be imagined.
Certainly, it is sacred to many millions
... And yet, for millions more non-Muslims, it is nothing but a book, and for some of these millions, a vile book indeed. Certainly - how shall His Grace put it? - not everyone agrees that it is 'God's guidance' on any matter whatsoever.
The doctrine of the state is compelling respect and enforcing reverence for that which the majority may consider profane. That is not only an offence against democracy: it is an offence against the conscience and a negation of .. religious liberties".
Comment on the previous:
"Given the rapid progress in technology, your communicant is compelled to wonder how Muslims would react to a ceremonial deleting of the Koran from a hard drive or a flash drive. Even burning a CD-Rom of the Koran rather lacks the imagery of burning a book.
Would it be a criminal offence to publicly delete the Koran from one's hard drive?
It seems important to get a definitive answer to this question."
Thanks to the police, and The Observer,
the lives of Owens and his partner are in danger:
"Sion and Joanne were told by police officers that their lives are in serious danger following the issuing of a fatwa against them in Pakistan. They were advised to leave home and go into hiding."
Christians upset about the desecration of a Bible in Glasgow's Gallery of Modern Art.
But oddly, the police don't care.
They will only arrest people when a Koran is desecrated.
If the Christians used violence maybe the police would support them.
That seems to be the principle here.
will be defeated, humiliated, and thrown in the dustbin of history
in the next few decades.
The West has seen off far greater threats
than some know-nothing medieval religious revival.
The defeat of Islamism
will be a great day, above all, for
Muslims in the West, who will no longer be feared as a possible
Over the next century,
Islam in the West will mutate in the same way Christianity did.
It will become far more tolerant and more diverse.
As with Christianity, traditionalists will still exist,
but they will no longer threaten violence.
As with Christianity, Islamic and post-Islamic scholars will arise
who question the existence of Allah,
the origin of the Quran,
the morality of Muhammad
and even his existence.
Millions of Muslims will become secular, apostates and atheists.
In the end,
the idea of the West,
the idea of reason, curiosity and human freedom,
will prove stronger than either Christianity or Islam, or any religion.
Wonderful anti-Islamist demo, Oct 2009, from
British Muslims for Secular Democracy.
"Free Speech Will Dominate The World."
"Liberal Democracy Will Rule The World. Freedom Is Here To Stay."