The Church started killing unbelievers as early as the 4th century.
The killing (often with torture)
of heretics, church splinter groups, dissenters, atheists, agnostics, deists, pagans, infidels
and unbelievers was supported by almost all mainstream
Christian theology for over a thousand years,
starting with the intolerant
St. Augustine (died 430 AD).
Yes, the Crusades were in part a response to
centuries of Islamic jihad
and persecution and slaughter of Christians
in the Middle East.
But the Christians then (unlike today) were no better than their Islamic adversaries.
In 1209, Pope Innocent III
called for a crusade to exterminate the Cathar people of France
simply because they had different superstitious beliefs to his own
Men, women and children were butchered
by the Pope's forces.
In 1233, Pope Gregory IX
encouraged the extermination of the Stedinger people
on the imaginary grounds that they were in league with the (equally-imaginary) Devil.
"The devil appears to them in different shapes",
said his holiness,
"sometimes as a goose or a duck".
The entire people were exterminated.
The Papacy's crimes of witch burning
were based on the grossest superstitions -
the weather cannot have natural causes
but must be caused by witches.
This would be comical provided we do not think about what happened
to the utterly innocent victims of these delusions -
men, women and little children
picked from the populace at random
and tortured and put to death.
should hang its head for ten thousand years
in shame for what it did.
Pope Innocent VIII
- probably the most evil of all the Popes,
in the number of innocent men, women and children
killed because of his words.
Read his moronic
declaration against witches
Essentially, because the causes of disease, bad weather, and other problems
were not known in those dark times,
their causes were attributed to imaginary witches
who must be hidden in the populace.
had no problem with the witch-burning,
and continued the
butchery of innocents long after the Reformation.
For example, the "King James Bible"
comes from one of these murderers.
Luther, Calvin and Wesley
supported the killing,
just as they opposed
Thomas Muentzer said
"curse the unbelievers ...
don't let them live any longer, the evil-doers who turn away from God.
For a godless man has no right to live if he hinders the godly.
The sword is necessary to exterminate them
... if they resist let them be slaughtered without mercy
... the ungodly have no right to live, save what the Elect choose to allow them
... Now, go at them
... it is time ... The scoundrels are as dispirited as dogs
... Take no notice of the lamentations of the godless! They will beg you
... don't be moved by pity ... At them! At them! While the fire is hot!
Don't let your sword get cold! Don't let it go lame!"
Foxe's Book of Martyrs
may have helped encourage
centuries of persecution
and killing of Catholics
(which continues in Ulster today),
but it also documents
a long history of violence and murder against free thinkers by Rome.
Atheists continued to be persecuted,
and by the 19th century atheists in Britain
were jailed rather than executed.
George Foote, editor of the Freethinker,
in England no longer believes that those who
disagree with it should be jailed.
Catholics were denied the right to representation in Parliament until
Atheists were denied the right to representation in Parliament until
produced the mass murderer of innocents
and they authored one of the most evil books in history,
the Witch Hammer,
which caused the cruel death of perhaps 1 million innocent
men, women and children.
I agree that much of the democide and slavery in
the New World and Africa after the 15th century
was driven by politics and profit
as much as by religion.
I am not blaming Christianity for all of it.
The West has changed for the better.
And the Christian churches have changed for the better.
I am interested in the failure of the Christian West to recognise the rights of non-Europeans,
the failure of the Christian churches to condemn it,
the slow awakening of both church and society,
and the long road towards the West becoming today the greatest defender on earth
of universal human rights.
Rudolph J. Rummel
native North and South Americans were killed by Europeans
(and their American-born descendants)
in democide in the conquest of the Americas.
Much of this, especially in the Caribbean and South America,
was driven by European Roman Catholicism.
Democide and the church
The papal bull
Romanus Pontifex, 1455.
In this, Pope Nicholas V
supports the killing, forcible conversion
and enslaving of unbelievers found in the new lands.
The Spanish executing the last Inca Emperor
He was threatened with death by burning, which, in his beliefs,
would prevent his soul going to the afterlife.
He was offered death by strangling
if he would convert to Catholicism.
He agreed, and was killed that way.
Image from here.
Spain's Roman Catholic bishops want to canonise
who started the Inquisition to torture and kill heretics,
ethnically cleansed the Jews and Muslims,
and brought genocide to the Americas.
This vile murderer
burned alive heretics and reformers, just because their superstitious beliefs
differed from his own stupid beliefs.
The fact that he himself was killed for the same reason
does not suddenly absolve him of his crimes.
Indeed, it seems like justice.
was the last Pope to have temporal power,
and to be able to abuse
those unlucky enough
to live in the Papal States.
In 1858, Pius IX's police brutally
removed a 6 year old Jewish boy,
from his parents
and forcibly raised him as a Catholic.
The pleas of Edgardo's distraught parents
counted for nothing.
They never got their little boy back.
This is minor compared with the brutality of the church throughout history,
but the sheer cruelty of it
makes Pius IX
a disgusting figure that no decent person should respect.
Judaism and Christianity are not real,
the soul and baptism are not real,
but a mother's love is real.
A mother's pain is real.
St. Maximilian Kolbe,
who was martyred by the Nazis in Auschwitz in 1941,
was, it is sad to say, a high-profile
before the war.
wrote for a large audience
on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion,
the alleged Jewish-Zionist-Masonic-Communist conspiracy,
and so on.
While Kolbe himself went on to save, not kill, Jews,
who knows what brutal acts during the war were inspired by his pre-war words?
Pope during the Holocaust
- in line for beatification.
Sir Thomas More
is killed for his beliefs.
He himself burned alive people for their beliefs.
The National Council of Churches in the US
are anti-Israel, anti-American, and have
Bishops Against Iraqi Freedom
- The United Methodist Church in the US
is led by useless whining anti-Americans from whom
one can expect no serious moral guidance.
96 United Methodist bishops
called the liberation of Iraq
"unjust and immoral".
Another bishop called the liberation
"morally lamentable" and "theologically reprehensible."
In my lifetime, the Catholic church has suppressed even basic freedom of religion.
In Franco's Spain
(up to 1975)
non-Catholics were subject to severe restrictions on worship and speech
(rather similar to the status of dhimmis under Islam).
In my lifetime,
the Catholic church in Ireland supported the denial of civil liberties in:
There has been a lot of focus (rightly) on the appalling reaction of the Catholic church
to cases of child abuse by Catholic priests.
But there are some issues that are overlooked:
Child sex abuse by priests was not policy.
It was wrong even by the church's own standards (if only on grounds of celibacy).
Whereas other crimes the church has committed over the years have been policy.
There are other guilty parties in not reporting / dealing with abuse by priests, namely:
The parents, for complaining to the church rather than to the police.
The state and police, for many times asking the church to deal with it
rather than arresting the priests and prosecuting them.
Compared to the failure by these two parties,
the failure by the priests' employers seems the minor part.
The hopeless moral failure by the priests' employers is only shocking if you believed
they had serious moral integrity to begin with.
And since I didn't,
I am not shocked.
I am more shocked by the behaviour of the parents and the state/police.
Obviously this does not apply if there is
any suggestion that the church prevented people
going to the police.
The Murphy Report
says children who were abused by priests
were made to swear an oath that they would not tell anyone (including the police)
on pain of excommunication (and therefore hell).
See section 4.25.
This is intimidation of witnesses to and victims of a crime,
and was illegal, even in Ireland back then.
Any cleric involved in these oaths who is still alive should be prosecuted.
It has been alleged that
Cardinal Sean Brady,
head of the Catholic church in Ireland since 1996,
made child victims of sexual abuse swear, on pain of excommunication,
that they would not tell the police.
If this is true, he should go to prison.
As it sheltered Nazi and Croat war criminals after WW2,
so the Vatican sheltered war criminal
Fr. Athanase Seromba
after the Rwandan genocide.
War criminals still hiding,
Jon Swain, Sunday Times, Aug 13, 2006
- The Vatican is believed to be
still sheltering other war criminals.
the marxist-authoritarian Mugabe is also Catholic,
and his murderous regime has long been protected by the Zimbabwe
- Tony Allwright says in 2006:
"in permitting Mr Mugabe to remain a Catholic, the Pope is demeaning the whole Church".
If only more Catholics were like him.
If only the Catholic hierarchy
stood up for human rights internationally,
and clearly differentiated between good and evil.
Giles Muhame, editor of the Ugandan newspaper Rolling Stone,
the face of modern Christian sharia law.
An American Christian fanatic,
Jason "Molotov" Mitchell,
actually defends the death penalty for Ugandan gays.
This is an incredibly strange,
slick, trendy video with a brutal medieval worldview.
Apparently we should be impressed that some
of a primitive tribe, full of hatred and superstition,
called for gays to be killed.
This nutcase comes from the
just a pose
and he doesn't really want to see gays killed,
but he does remind us that
the old Christianity
was very like modern Islam.
Christianity looks fairly disgusting, as portrayed by him.