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Lebanon
The Lebanon War, 1975-90
- Lebanese Civil War, 1975-90
- Palestinian persecution of Christians
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Islam's Torture of Lebanon
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The massacre of the Christian town of Damour (or Damur)
by the Palestinians, 1976:
"An entire family had been killed, the Can'an family,
four children all dead, and the mother, the father, and the grandfather.
The mother was still hugging one of the children. And she was pregnant.
The eyes of the children were gone and their limbs were cut off. No legs and no arms."
- Palestinians based in Lebanon made constant raids on Israel,
deliberately targeting and killing Israeli civilians, including children:
- Israel tries to defend itself:
- The Jewish Virtual Library
- The Peace Encyclopedia
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Sabra and Shatila massacre, 1982
(and here)
(carried out by Christians).
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This was a brutal massacre of Palestinians,
carried out by Lebanese Christians who were allied with Israel,
and who were themselves avenging
similar massacres of Lebanese Christians carried out by the Palestinians.
The leader of the Sabra and Shatila massacre,
Elie Hobeika,
had had his fiancée raped and murdered by the Palestinians
in the
Damour massacre of Christians
by Arafat's PLO and other Palestinians in 1976.
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Arafat was never arrested for the 1976 Damour massacre,
despite the fact it was his own men carried it out.
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Even though no Israelis carried out the 1982 Sabra and Shatila massacre,
300,000 Israelis demonstrated
against it, furious that Israel had not stopped it,
even though the Palestinians were their enemies.
This is the difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
When have Palestinians ever demonstrated in large numbers
following a killing of Israeli innocents?
If this has ever happened, let me know here.
- Likewise, an Israeli inquiry
sacked the Defense Minister
Ariel Sharon,
and sacked and demoted other senior figures in the army and intelligence.
When have the Palestinians ever held an inquiry
into the killing of Israeli innocents?
If this has ever happened, let me know here.
- While I can understand the fury directed at the Israelis
(such as Sharon)
who failed to prevent the massacre,
I cannot understand why all the fury seems to be directed at them.
Surely 90 percent of the fury should be directed at the people who actually
carried out the massacre, butchers like
Elie Hobeika,
and the people who carried out other similar massacres at the time, butchers like
Yasser Arafat.
- UNIFIL
(the UN force in the Lebanon)
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UNIFIL has been in the Lebanon
since 1978,
and Irish forces
have been there since 1978.
- For a history see
[Miller, 2005].
- UNIFIL
is the only engagement of the Irish army that I think is actually
harmful and should stop.
- Everyone should simply support Israel
against its enemies.
We should not be neutral.
UNIFIL do not help the IDF fight Hezbollah.
(Just as previously they did not help the IDF fight the PLO.)
They do not help disarm Hezbollah.
They in effect give cover for Hezbollah re-arming and re-building their military infrastructure in South Lebanon.
(Just as previously they in effect gave cover to PLO attacks on Israel and on Lebanese Christians.)
They restrict IDF operations against Hezbollah.
(Just as previously they restricted IDF operations against the PLO.)
- During the Israeli invasion in 1982,
UNIFIL (including Irish troops)
were actually under orders to try to stop the Israeli force.
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47 Irish soldiers
have died for this mission,
many at the hands of Lebanese Christians backed by Israel.
(The Lebanese Christians saw the UN as preventing them defending themselves against PLO and other Muslim attacks.)
As a result, many in the Irish military have become anti-Israel and pro-UN.
See Tom Clonan
and
"Free Stater".
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UNIFIL are harmful and should be disbanded.
The Irish army force
should be brought home from the Lebanon.
No brave Irish soldier should risk his life for the UN's false political view
of the Israel-Lebanon situation.
I support the IDF in Lebanon.
I don't support the UN mission.
It should be shut down, and all UN troops should leave.
- Robert Fisk
lives in Lebanon.
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From massacre in Madrid to carnage in Qamishli: Fact and Fiction
by the Kurd, Kamal Mirawdeli,
on Robert Fisk's inability to criticise Syria.
Fisk can live safely in Lebanon because he never says anything
to upset the locals.
He knows that if he criticises the free countries of America and Israel,
nothing will happen to him.
But if he criticises Syria (or supports Israel),
he would not be able to live safely in Lebanon.
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Mirawdeli says with bitterness about people like Fisk:
"To report Arabs or Arab regimes crimes against colonised, enslaved non-Arab
nationalities in Arab racist states is an area which is a taboo for Western media."
- Mirawdeli is scathing about Fisk's "newspaper",
The Independent,
and refers to
"the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq which thankfully led to the destruction of two greatest evil
regimes in todays world with whom Robert Fisk and
Independent, it seems, were quite happy"
- "How criminally dishonest for Arabist and supposedly knowledgeable Orientalist Robert Fisk to link
the case of terrorism to injustices done to the Islamic world!!
Was it an act of injustice to topple
Saddam? Hasn't Robert Fisk been in Iraq and seen for himself
over 300 mass graves containing over
300,000 bodies of old and young men and women and children,
shot or buried-alive? Was the Taliban
an example of just Islamic law and government
and did the US and Britain do injustice by destroying
the regime?"
- "And what just cause do the terrorists have apart
from being fanatic bloodthirsty fanatics
obsessed with Jihad and imposing sharia on everyone
and every society if they can and by so doing
imposing the law of jungle and system of darkness of humanity?"
- "If Robert Fisk is so concerned about justice in Islamic
countries why doesn't he do an honorable thing, for a change, and find out and report the injustices the
Kurdistani people have been suffering at the
hands of Ba'thist fascist of
Arab racist state of Syria
since 1961?"
- Because Fisk would be afraid to do that, is the answer.
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If you think I am too hard on Fisk,
show me articles he has written along the lines of:
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"Assad: Unelected dictator must go"
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"Hezbollah: Reactionary medieval Islamists have no place in Lebanon"
or similar.
Show me his strongest writing against Syria and Hezbollah.
Tell me here.
- Show me something he has written that actually takes some guts.
Criticising Israel while living in Lebanon (or even in Israel) takes no guts.
- Hezbollah rocket force
- Robert Fisk, the man who is always wrong,
writing on
15 April 2003
on the claim back in 2003 that
Hizbollah had a large number of missiles pointed at Israel:
"Take the article in The New York Times
... which last month announced that the Syrian-supported Hizbollah resistance in Lebanon
had 10,000 missiles that could fly to Tel Aviv and
"leave in their wake devastation more terrible than anything Israel has ever known".
The missiles are a myth - I travel the roads of southern Lebanon every two weeks
and there are no such missiles, as the UN force there will confirm"
- In 2006, Hizbollah
attacked Israel with 4,000
of these missiles
whose existence Robert Fisk was unaware of.
- The Cedar Revolution, 2005
- Spirit of America
- The World Council of the Cedars Revolution
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Tens of thousands of protesters in Beirut demand Syria ouster, 22 Feb 2005
- "Syria out. Syria out.
...
We are with the Muslims, the Druze, together for a free Lebanon.
Tell America we are waiting for them to invade, all of us."
- Another protester:
"I love America. Tell Bush to come here. Thank him, thank Chirac.
This is a great day for all Arab people."
- More protesters:
"Thank's Free World.
... We thank Mr. Bush for his position.
... We love the American people. Please don't let Bush forget us. Your support is very important.
... We want to change. We need freedom. Please don't let Bush forget us.
... Our hope is America. We believe in democracy in the Middle East."
- They will need to liberate themselves from the thugs of
Hizbollah
as well.
- The Irish leftist
Richard Boyd Barrett laughs at the Lebanon revolution, 14 Mar 2005, and is delighted that Islamist Hezbollah is fighting back:
"US propaganda about democracy in Lebanon has been answered by 500,000
[Hezbollah supporting]
Lebanese on the streets rejecting calls for Syrian withdrawal
and telling the US to stay out of their affairs."
And he tries to smear the democracy protesters:
"The smaller US-supported protests were in large part organised by the same Christian Phalange
forces that carried out the massacre of Palestinians with Israel's assistance
in Sabra and Shatila in 1982."
- The same day he wrote this,
1 million brave Lebanese came out to protest for democracy, against Syria
and against Iranian-backed Hezbollah.
The Irish left, and the western left, are on the wrong side of history again.
- Because they do not understand human nature - that people want to be free
- the left got the Berlin Wall wrong in 1989.
And it's getting this revolution wrong too.
- Many people were struck by a quote from
Walid Jumblatt,
the America-hating, Jew-hating,
Lebanese Druze leader, Feb 2005:
"It's strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq.
I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million of them,
it was the start of a new Arab world.
The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing.
The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it."
- With American troops on his border ready to intervene,
the Syrian dictator Bashar Assad
is getting scared:
"Please send this message: I am not Saddam Hussein. I want to cooperate.",
said the unelected thug.
- Apr 2005 - Syrian troops leave.
Now let's see if there's
democracy in Lebanon.
- Gates of Vienna
on the Arab world waking up:
"It's the "thirst to live a democratic life with dignity"
that is driving this change in attitude.
Imagine having lived in the desert for a long, long time, dreaming of water.
Imagine a well being drilled right in your own courtyard."
- Gates of Vienna
thanks Lebanon for taking the baton after Iraq.
If this revolution sweeps the Middle East, it will be because of Lebanon.
Truly the Lebanese are heroes.
"Thank you, Lebanon, for rushing in where angels fear to tread."
The Lebanon revolution, 2005.
From
here.
After the war
CIA image of covert nuclear reactor, Syria
(before Israel destroyed it).
From
here.
"We are not fighting so
that you will offer us something. We are fighting to
eliminate you."
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Hussein Massawi,
former leader of
Hezbollah,
summing up what Islamists want from the West.
"The Jews invented the legend of the Nazi atrocities.
...
So long as there is a state called Israel, disasters and suffering will continue.
This is a cancerous body in the region.
... When a cancer is discovered, it must be dealt with fearlessly; it must be uprooted.
...
Anyone who reads the Koran and the holy writings of the monotheistic religions
sees what they did to the prophets, and what acts of madness and slaughter
the Jews carried out throughout history.
...
Anyone who reads these texts cannot think of co-existence with them, of peace with them,
or about accepting their presence, not only in Palestine of 1948
but even in a small village in Palestine,
because they are a cancer which is liable to spread again at any moment."
-
Hassan Nasrallah,
current leader of Hezbollah, Apr 2000.
"It is an open war until the elimination of Israel
and until the death of the last Jew on earth."
- Hezbollah,
March 1992,
taking responsibility for the suicide bombing of the
Israeli Embassy in Argentina.
"If they" [the Jews]
"all gather in Israel,
it will save us the trouble of going after them world wide."
-
Hassan Nasrallah,
current leader of Hezbollah, October 2002.
See here.
"a few years ago, a great French philosopher, Roger Garaudy, wrote a scientific book.
He did not offend, curse, or insult anyone. He wrote a scientific research of an academic nature,
in which he discussed the alleged Jewish Holocaust in Germany.
He proved that this Holocaust is a myth."
- Hassan Nasrallah,
February 2006.
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Someone called
"The AngryBlogger"
(or via here)
complains about the one-sidedness of these quotes,
and I reply.
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His blog seems to have vanished,
so here is the discussion:
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Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, Jan 2008, says he has retained body parts of Israeli soldiers from the war.
"I am not talking about regular body parts. I tell the Israelis, we have the heads of your soldiers, we have hands, we have legs.
There is even a near-complete body, a half or three-quarters of a body,
from head, to chest to the torso."
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