This section is about more recent statements by Irish politicians on Israel.
For the older history of Ireland and Israel see here.
Noel Davern (FF)
Dail, 22 April, 1997,
compares Israel to the Nazis:
"What I fail to understand is that a people, so badly treated themselves in the course of the Second World War, and beforehand, can suddenly begin to treat others in almost similar fashion."
"Almost" similar, if we ignore the fact of rounding up millions of them for industrial gassing.
Oh, and the fact that Israel are fighting ruthless
terrorists who target their civilians.
(Whereas the Nazis attacked and killed the Jews of Eastern Europe
for .. no reason whatsoever.)
Brian Cowen in the Dail,
13 December, 2001,
as Israelis are being slaughtered in
"the only way to end this dreadful conflict is to resume the peace process. There is no military solution".
This turned out to be rubbish.
There was a military solution.
25 June 2003, says Arafat is
"the symbol of the hope of self-determination for the Palestinian people".
The death of Arafat, the godfather of modern Islamic terrorism, in 2004:
Fianna Fail's appalling anti-Israel
Minister for Foreign Affairs.
(And now the FF leader.)
Dear Irish Foreign Minister Micheál Martin, David Harris, 7 Apr 2010,
responds to Martin's anti-Israel nonsense.
"Is it ignorance? Are you unaware of what's been going on in Gaza, including the brutal nature of Hamas rule, the smuggling of ever more sophisticated weapons, or the thousands of rocket attacks launched against Israel?
Is it projection? Do you assume that all the people of Gaza today want nothing more than the people of Galway, namely, peace on earth and good will toward men?
Someone without any knowledge of the region would deduce from your article that Israel, having nothing else to do, simply decided one day to make life unbearable for neighboring Gaza.
Your narrative recalls other instances where outside observers misread conditions in largely unfamiliar authoritarian societies. They were not able to grasp what was really going on beyond the surface."
This shows Israel's view of FF's prejudices against it:
"I think that what Ireland has been doing lately - to put itself in the position of being so vocal against Israel and so extreme in its criticism - is wrong because then it might lose its power to influence Israel and the peace process."
And Israel's view of Ireland in general:
"I knew it's a challenge. ... I knew that politically there is a lot of work to do.
My colleagues back in the foreign ministry in Jerusalem would look at Ireland as a lost cause.
This is a very bad sign. We should do our utmost that this is not the case. There is a lot of things to be done and clearly there is a lot of difficulties and there is a lot of criticism - some of it comes from a good place; people really care and they want to influence but some of it is really vicious."
Éamon Ó Cuív,
Deputy Leader of Fianna Fáil,
is as anti-Israel as the FF leader Micheál Martin.
Here he is in the Dail,
22 Sept 2011, supporting a unilateral declaration of Palestine in the 1967 borders, without any peace process with Israel.
"When the late Brian Lenihan was Minister for Foreign Affairs, he supported the request of the Palestinian people for statehood on behalf of the Irish people. It is disappointing that the United States has apparently decided to veto the Palestinian bid. It is even more disappointing that the Tánaiste appears to be supporting President Obama's stance on the issue."
in a tweet of
28 Apr 2013 that she laid a wreath at the tomb of mass murderer Yasser Arafat.
It is shameful that an Irish politician would do this.
She also announces it on
Stephen Donnelly, TD
had a business background and talked sense about the bank bailout,
so I was happy to see him elected in 2011.
It is a shame therefore that he is now buying into Marxist bullshit about the Middle East.
Tweet from 10 Dec 2014.
Ireland has a lot of idiots, but this guy must be near the top:
Dermot Ahern (former FF Minister), Nov 2015,
says the cause of the Islamic massacre in Paris,
and indeed the cause of the Islamic jihad across the Middle East,
is ... Israel!
He refers to:
"the need to intensify diplomatic efforts to try and get some peace in the Middle East,
and a lot of this doesn't come from the War in Iraq,
it comes from the destabilising of the entire region because of the Israeli-Palestine issue.
And that has been the source of all the problems in that part of the world."
Dermot Ahern thinks founding a Palestinian state would make ISIS stop killing.
Socialist Party MEP (and then TD)
supports intifada and jihad against Israel.
Paul Murphy calls for an intifada against Israel, July 2013.
In an interview (jump to 07:11)
on Russian state TV
he calls for an uprising, not against the Russian dictatorship
but against the democracy of Israel:
"You've seen significant protest, significant movements,
the potential to redevelop a struggle along the lines of the first intifada.
That's the kind of thing that is necessary.
Such a movement could link up with the genuine Israeli left, with working people and young people, who don't benefit from the oppression of the Palestinians,
overthrow the capitalist establishment of Israel."
What a sinister nutcase.
In a passive-aggressive way, he later explains
that this is not of course a call for killing.
This "intifada" would be peaceful - unlike both previous intifadas.
But he is not totally opposed to jihad violence against Israel.
Paul Murphy, 25 July 2013, openly supports violence against the IDF.
"I think the Palestinians have a right to defend themselves against [Israeli] aggression
and that may involve armed defence against soldiers - I wouldn't have a problem with that".
He lives in some imaginary world where the jihad targets the IDF rather than all Jews!
Mick Wallace, 1 Dec 2014, claims that the Jews committed genocide in 1948:
"In 1948 the Jews expelled, massacred, destroyed, and raped in that year,
and generally behaved like all the other colonialist movements operating in the Middle East and Africa ... As a result of that campaign ... 700,000 Palestinians were expelled, and several thousand were massacred.
It was a genocide at the time. What is happening today is not very different."
Mick Wallace slanders the brave US military, Mar 2016.
He defends Hezbollah, but about US military aircraft using Irish airports, he said:
"these guys engage in war. ...
If Americans don’t drop bombs on people’s homes, the arms industry will suffer."
Mick Wallace blocks me.
you can see he never said a word in debate.
When you read these awful Israel-condemning debates in the Irish Senate,
remember that Ireland is a country
that was neutral
during the Holocaust,
that sent condolences to Germany on the death of Hitler,
and that refused to allow almost any Jewish refugees in,
either before, during or after the war.
I don't at all think the Irish politicians are anti-semitic.
Rather, they have
a range of trendy reasons
for their views.
But I think Ireland - like most of Europe
- should shut up about Jews for a few hundred years.
Bizarrely, in June 2008,
Mary O'Rourke called for the dictator Mugabe of Zimbabwe to be shot.
"I think the only way he'd be got rid of is somebody shooting him.
I mean, I know it sounds stupid, but that is the only way. ...
Somebody should shoot him."
It's great that she said it, but then
why on earth did she oppose killing Yassin?
What makes Yassin in any sense superior to Mugabe?
Labhras O'Murchu of FF,
Irish Senate, 20 May 2004
- "The war crimes being perpetrated by Israel against the Palestinian people
will shock the world and will be seen for what they are. The Minister for Foreign Affairs
has been particularly forthright in support of the rights of the Palestinian people.
It is important for this nation, and for all nations, to impress on Israel
that of all the nations on earth, it should be wary about engaging in activities which could be perceived as being genocidal."
Terry Leyden of FF,
Irish Senate, 20 May 2004
- "we should make a request of the Minister for Foreign Affairs, Deputy Cowen,
who is now President of the EU Foreign Ministers and has been exemplary in his work on Palestine
and recognising the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination.
I suggest that we withdraw the special status that Israel holds in the eyes of the European Union.
A boycott of Israeli products should be undertaken."
Mary O'Rourke of FF,
Irish Senate, 20 May 2004
- "Senator Leyden wants the Minister for Foreign Affairs, Deputy Cowen,
as President of the EU Council of Foreign Minister,
to withdraw the special status afforded to Israel by the EU,
and calls for a boycott of Israeli goods.
.. Perhaps it is a point that could be considered."
Terry Leyden (FF) on Hamas, 4 July 2007:
"Obviously, Hamas is playing an important role in Gaza. It has taken control of the region and will prove a success there. It is the legitimate government of the West Bank, Gaza and Palestine, and should be recognised as such by the Government and the European Union. Hamas was elected to that position."
Senator Eoghan Harris, 2010:
"I would probably be the only voice currently in the upper house of the Irish parliament to support Israel."
Terry Leyden (FF)
in the Senate, 22 Sept 2011, complains that the FG-Labour Irish government is not anti-Israel enough:
He supports the
Palestinian bid for statehood.
He says it is the only Jew in the Cabinet who is influencing the government.
(Actually, I hope that's true!)
"In my view there is an undue influence exercised by the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Shatter, to ensure that this Government vetoes the policy of the Irish State regarding the recognition of Palestine and the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination. There is undue influence being brought to bear in the Cabinet in this regard."
And Obama is now pro-Israel apparently!
"The massive Jewish vote in the United States of America influences government policy and Obama is now a tool of the Israeli State."
The real apartheid state:
Rather the PA.
"Jewish Access Forbidden!"
Jews are not allowed into some areas of
Israeli soldiers enforce this because they cannot guarantee the safety of any Jew that goes into this area.
And this is not to mention ancient Jewish homelands in
Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, North Africa
and other places
where Jews cannot now set foot.
Image from here.
Where are the signs in Israel saying "Muslim Access Forbidden"?
The Seanad, 22 Oct 2014, passes a motion to recognise the state of Palestine.
Proposed by Averil Power (FF).
Seconded by Darragh O'Brien (FF).
Pathetic one-sided posturing that will encourage Hamas rocket attacks and intransigence. Shame on the Seanad and FF.
Averil Power's husband,
is editor of the Irish Independent.
Averil Power poses, Nov 2014, with deranged religious nutcase
of the foul
This is like posing with the
Westboro Baptist church.
And Averil Power is proud of it
and posts it to her
She also posted it to her
After a storm of criticism,
she deleted it from both Facebook and Twitter!
Averil Power's new
pal Rabbi Weiss
protests against the gays.
talking about the gays:
"The public acceptance and assent to perversion as a "legitimate" way of life is cruel and barbaric."
The default position in Ireland is to be in favour of ethnic cleansing.
It is standard in Ireland to support the 1967 borders.
(As in the
Palestinian bid for statehood.)
No one seems to care what happens to the
550,000 Jews in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.
Either there are absurd, naive claims that they should live under Fatah rule.
Or it is assumed they should just "go back" to Israel.
Either way, their wishes and desires
are of no concern.
The ethnic cleansing of the Jews in the West Bank
is the only ethnic cleansing that it is popular (indeed fashionable) to support
Senior Irish diplomat
Richard Ryan (former Irish representative to the UN) illustrates Official Ireland's absurd position on Israel, 27 Oct 2014.
According to Ryan, the greatest threat to peace is not jihad, sharia, Hamas, Fatah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria or the caliphate.
No, it is, of course, Jews building houses.
"there continues to develop in the background perhaps the greatest threat to real and lasting peace. The Israeli settlements policy ... is destroying systematically the very doability of that one remaining solution scenario."
What is shocking is that he really seems to believe this.
Jewish population by country.
cleansing of Jews
has been continuing
all across the Arab Middle East since 1948,
and the entire region is now nearly Judenrein.
It continues today. Recently, 9,000 Jews were cleansed from
Gaza in 2005
and it is now Judenrein. (It is now a hellhole sharia state.)
But this is still not enough for the international community.
Now they want to clear out the
550,000 Jews in the West Bank and East Jerusalem,
and make that area Judenrein too.
For this is what a Palestinian state with the 1967 border means.
A Nazi-era sign declaring that
Sankt Veit an der Glan
"Judenrein" (cleansed of all Jews).
This is what most Irish people want for the West Bank.
Many of them even want it for Israel.
attacks ethnic cleansing,
and then immediately proposes ethnic cleansing of 0.5 million Jews!
And many, if not most, Irish politicians would agree.
It is for sure the "trendy" ethnic cleansing to support.
the same guy says that the
forcible eviction of 0.5 million people is not ethnic cleansing.
Dara de Brun
is relaxed about the proposed ethnic cleansing of 0.5 million people.
He himself is not being ethnically cleansed, so it's alright.
He suggests they can all go back to their "real" homes.
Even if we agreed (and I certainly don't) that every settlement is illegal,
Now what do you do?
To blithely propose the forcible eviction of 0.5 million people is outrageous,
and shame on anyone who proposes that as a solution.
"As President Obama was making
his now forgotten prostrations in Cairo,
his Secretary of State was hectoring the Zionist Entity, regarding the West Bank, that there has to be "a stop to settlements - not some settlements, not outposts, not natural-growth exceptions."
No "natural growth"? You mean, if you and the missus have a kid, you've got to talk gran'ma into moving out? To Tel Aviv, or Brooklyn, or wherever? Consciously or not, Mrs. Clinton had endorsed the Muslim world's position on infidels who happen to find themselves within what it regards as lands belonging to Islam: the Jewish and Christian communities are free to stand still or shrink, but not to grow.
Would Obama have been comfortable mandating "no natural growth" to Israel's million-and-a-half Muslims?
No. Yet the administration had no difficulty embracing the Muslim world's confident belief in one-way multiculturalism, under which Islam expands in the West but Christianity and Judaism shrivel inexorably in the Middle East, Pakistan, and elsewhere."
- Mark Steyn in
points out that people lecture Israel and make demands of it
(no natural growth, ethnic cleansing)
that they would never dream of making for their own country,
or for other groups.
In Sept 2013, Chris Andrews left FF and joined Sinn Féin, which shares his appalling views on Israel.
Hilariously, the Assad picture below
in the mainstream.
A Sinn Féin spokesperson was forced to respond:
"It's not a new photo and has been doing the rounds again over the last couple of days."
It sure sums up both Chris Andrews and Sinn Féin, though.
rather dodgy tweet, June 2011, about the only Jew in the Irish government,
I was pleased to see Chris Andrews lose his seat in the Feb 2011 election.
Chris Andrews with
Syrian terror-state leader
Bashar al-Assad in Damascus on Sunday, March 15, 2009.
From a 2009 Chris Andrews constituency leaflet.
(He actually chose to display this photo of himself to the voters!)
Credit to Monique Walsh for finding this.
and full page.
The stupidity of thinking that a dictator and state sponsor of terror is just the man needed to solve the Israel conflict.
It is interesting to see that
and Ryan Tubridy)
was friendly with the Nazis.
He socialised at the Nazi embassy in Dublin during the war.
This is an extract from his memoir,
Man of no Property
(and here), 1982.
He was not a Nazi himself, but he expressed a common Irish unwillingness to support the democracies
against their enemies,
or even make distinctions between the two -
that his grandson Chris Andrews continues today.
It is also interesting to consider,
given Chris Andrews posing with Assad above,
is from the pro-Nazi
(and possibly Assad junior too)
Nazi war criminal
Above are French protesters
against the 1998 visit to France by Assad senior.
The placard remembers the
Vel' d'Hiv Roundup
of Jews in Paris in 1942.
Photo from here.
Who I block:
I will debate almost anyone.
I love ideas.
I will not debate (and will block) people who do the following:
(a) Make threats.
(b) Accuse me of crimes.
(c) Comment on my appearance.
(d) Drag in stuff about me not related to the topic. (My professional career, my personal life.)
(e) Complain to my employer.
Yes, people do all these things.