The persecution of Christians in Bethlehem by Islamists
is a case study in how the western Christian churches fail to stand up for third world
Christians against their tormentors.
20,000 Christians in Bethlehem in 1995,
when Israel handed over Bethlehem to Arafat and his Islamic terrorists.
By 2010, there were only 7,500 Christians in the town.
A few more years of PA rule and Bethlehem will be entirely Muslim.
Bethlehem Christians fear neighbors, Jan. 25, 2007:
"15 years from now there will be no Christians left in Bethlehem. Then you will need a torch to find a Christian here. This is a very sad situation."
Interview, December 05, 2008, with Joseph Hakim of the International Christian Union:
"Christian minorities in the Middle East are in a critical state, and unless the West can provide security and a strong financial base for Christians, it is doubtful that the Christian communities in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Sudan, and the Palestinian Territories will survive. If action is not taken immediately, I don't see how the Christians will survive in the next 50 years."
The Catholic church:
Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor,
head of the Catholic church in England and Wales,
deplores the exodus of Christians from Bethlehem, Dec 2005.
Yet he blames Israel
rather than the true reason for the slow ethnic cleansing of Christians
- Islamic fundamentalism and Palestinian Authority rule.
The Anglican church:
The idiot Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams
bemoans the (Islamist) persecution of Christians in Bethlehem, Iraq
and the Middle East, Dec 2006.
And then he blames Christians and Jews for it, rather than the Islamists.
He blames America, Britain and Israel for somehow having policies that "enrage"
the Islamists and make them persecute minorities (which they would never do otherwise,
Rowan Williams "understands" rather than
attacks the Islamist killers, torturers and persecutors of Christians,
and even says we should give them what they want.
The message they receive is that violence works,
keep it up,
and even escalate it.
Far from standing up for Christians worldwide, he is encouraging their persecutors
to keep going.
"the principal reason for the Christians' flight is Muslim violence.
Indeed, if it were Israel's behaviour it would hardly be only Christians who were fleeing."
She quotes a report that says:
"Every one of the more than twenty Muslim states in the Middle East has a declining Christian population. In fact, Israel is the only state in the region in which the Christian Arab population has grown in real terms
- from approximately 34,000 in 1948 to nearly 130,000 in 2005."
from Melanie Phillips on
"the appalling misrepresentation of the Church of England of the plight of Bethlehem's Christians and the scapegoating of Israel for their situation by the Archbishop of Canterbury."
The Christmas libel, Melanie Phillips, 18 Dec 2007.
"a few years ago Bethlehem was mainly Christian, now it is 80 per cent Muslim .. Might the fact that such a dramatic change occurred simultaneously with Bethlehem coming under Muslim control after Oslo ... just possibly have something to do with it?"
The Christian clerics claim they are
and at "almost at every level of life there is discrimination".
The article does not however list any examples of this "oppression".
Anti-Israel (and pro-Islam) Christians
It is sadly true that many Middle Eastern Christians
blame the Jews rather than the Muslims
for their problems.
Why is a mystery.
I guess it is hard to escape the ingrained habits of
1,300 years of dhimmitude.
For 1,300 years they had to please their overlords.
And turning to, say, the tropes of
is a lot easier than standing up to the jihad (which may get you killed).
on how the silence of the victims in a tyrannical society
is not understood by idiots in the West:
"The silence is a direct function of the issue about which it does not speak.
We in civil society do not have a clue how rare and precious our ability to speak up.
This means that, faced with a choice between reading silence as evidence of calm, or as evidence of violence, we will naturally prefer the former explanation."
a Palestinian Christian from Bethlehem,
dissents from the Fatah line that all must follow.
Ignore the start,
with the creepy Fatah hypocrite
promising human rights some day, but not yet.
Instead jump to her speech at
It starts slow, with her talking about children encouraged to fight the IDF and getting killed.
But already you notice she is not totally blaming the IDF.
It then gets more interesting.
She blames the PA, not Israel,
for the massive drop in the Christian population of Bethlehem.
She says Christians in Bethlehem have to pay jizya
Her family home is right beside the Israeli wall.
She notes the terrible impact the wall has had on their lives.
But she does not blame Israel for building it.
It is all quite refreshing,
though some religious codology comes in later.
because of the
western way of war,
dear, not because of God.
Any Christian who speaks about life in the PA will, of course, have to leave.
She flees to the UK.
"I got threatened to be killed for sharing my beliefs and views. Well, Israel doesn't kill us or threaten us for sharing our views. Palestinians do. I was shocked, I was furious".
If Jesus came to Bethlehem today -
he would be killed as a Jew within hours.
We take it for granted that no Jew
could exist or live in Bethlehem.
Terence Mendoza, December 31, 2007,
points out how shocking this is.
That if the biblical Joseph and Mary travelled to Bethlehem today,
they would be slaughtered as Jews within hours.
"Mary and Joseph, being Jewish, would be putting their lives at severe risk by entering this Judenfrei area."
A children's Christian book
asks what if Jesus were born today.
The sad answer is that if a Jewish family went into Bethlehem today,
they would be killed.
War on Want
with a real feel
They did not, however, show what happened to
Joseph and Mary after they entered Bethlehem.
As Jews, they were immediately killed by the Palestinians.
'If Jesus were to come this year, Bethlehem would be closed', Phoebe Greenwood, The Guardian, 22 December 2011.
A disgusting piece in a disgusting paper.
She notes the massive decline in the Christian population of Bethlehem, and blames it not on corrupt and
oppressive Fatah rule,
and Muslim persecution of Christians,
but rather on ... Israel!
She does not mention the massive increase in the Christian population of Israel.
She also shows no understanding that if Jesus really were to come to Bethlehem today, without IDF protection,
he would be killed by the Palestinians.
There was a controversy in Dec 2012 when the Israeli embassy in Dublin made this same point on Facebook.
for saying the Holy Family would be lynched.
Well known anti-Israel activist
also called this
But it is obviously true, and I have stated it
on my website for years.
No one attempted to show that the statement is false
- that Jewish families can indeed wander safely round Bethlehem today without armed security.
Why Christians leave Mideast, Joseph Farah, 27 Dec 2005.
"It is becoming an annual Christmas tradition - blaming Israel for the dwindling Christian population in formerly Christian towns like Bethlehem."
"If the Israelis contributed in any way to the exodus of Christians,
it was by withdrawing from Bethlehem and .. the West Bank"
and leaving them at the mercy of the Palestinian Authority.
Or, if you really want to help Bethlehem:
"Allow Bethlehem become part of Israel".
Peter the Hermit
preaches and leads the
to liberate the Holy Land from Islam.
slaughtered around 1 million innocent people.
Image from here.
Now, Christians are happy to see the Holy Land enslaved under Islam.
They even seem offended if any parts are not enslaved under Islam.
The 1.5 million Arabs who find themselves within Israel
know how good they have it,
and have no wish to join the corrupt and oppressive Palestinian Authority.
"A survey of residents of
Umm el-Fahm ..
in the summer of 2000 asked whether they would like to include their city
in a potential Palestinian state.
The question elicited resounding opposition from 83% of respondents.
Among those opposed, 54% cited as explanation for their position the desire
to continue living under democratic rule,
and the fact that they enjoy a good standard of living."
Arabs move to get on Israel side of barrier, Khaled Abu Toameh, May 14, 2007
- "In the past four years, thousands of Arab Jerusalemites
living outside the municipal boundaries of the city
have moved back into Jerusalem for fear of being left on the other side of the security fence.""People see the anarchy and instability in the Palestinian Authority areas
and prefer to leave to a safer place", explained an Arab businessman from Beit Hanina.
"Also, people are afraid of losing their status as permanent residents of Israel
and that's why they are moving back into Jerusalem.
After all, life inside Israel is much better than the West Bank."
Israeli Arab Muslims on pilgrimage to Mecca
actually defend Israel against the hostility of the Muslims they meet.
"Jum'a also encounters anti-Israel views. He holds the Arab media partially to blame for this, for failing to provide an accurate and comprehensive picture of Israeli culture and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
'The Arab media always shows negative things about Israel and as a Muslim Arab living inside Israel I want to show a positive side of the country. I tell them there are good things in Israel and that we live side by side with the Jews. There are problems sometimes but the relations with our Jewish neighbors are generally good.'
The Muslims in Israel have freedom and passports, he tells them. They have a good economic situation and good jobs; they get along with their Jewish neighbors and they benefit from Israel's services.
Sheikh 'Ali Bakr, 47, an imam from northern Israel
... says: 'Some think that Israeli Arabs are neglected and underprivileged, so we tell them that's not the case, that we live here as equal citizens and that we fit well into the Jewish social fabric.'"
Poll, Jan 2015.
65% of Israeli Arabs described themselves as proud to be Israeli.
Some Arab Israelis are in fact conservative, hawkish, very pro-Israel and right-wing.
Someone like Druze Israeli politician
does not seem to fit into the simplistic world view of the average leftie anti-Israel westerner.
An Arab member of Likud.
An Arab Deputy Minister of Israel.
Many Arab Muslims prefer Israeli rule to PA rule:
Some Palestinians prefer life in Israel: In East Jerusalem, residents say they would fight a handover to Abbas regime, Mark Mackinnon, October 16, 2007
- Arabs in Jerusalem horrified at the thought they might be forced out of Israel
and into the corrupt, oppressive Palestinian Authority.
"If there was a referendum here, no one would vote to join the Palestinian Authority.
They dislike the idea of their neighbourhoods, which are generally more prosperous than other parts of the West Bank, being absorbed into the chaotic Palestinian territories.
Mr. Gheit said that over the past five years, some 5,000 people have moved into Ras Hamis from other parts of the West Bank, concerned that they would lose their Israeli identification cards if they didn't live within the city limits. There would be a mass exodus into other parts of the city, or other towns in Israel, if it looked likely that Ras Hamis and Shuafat, home to a combined 50,000 people, were about to be declared no longer part of Jerusalem."
Similar quotes from Arabs of Jerusalem in 2000:
"The whole world seems to be talking about the future of the Arabs of Jerusalem, but no one has bothered asking us. The international community and the Israeli Left seem to take it for granted that we want to live under Mr. Arafat's control. We don't. Most of us despise Mr. Arafat and the cronies around him, and we want to stay in Israel. At least here I can speak my mind freely without being dumped in prison, as well as having a chance to earn an honest day's wage."
Similar quotes from Arabs of Galilee in 2004:
"Yasir Arafat runs a dictatorship, not a democracy. No one here would accept to live under that regime."
"Here you can say whatever you like and do whatever you want - so long as you don't touch the security of Israel. Over there, if you talk about Arafat, they can arrest you and beat you up."
Sept 2011 poll:
39 percent of Arabs in Jerusalem prefer Israeli citizenship
to Palestinian citizenship.
42 percent say they would try to move to Israel
if their neighbourhood became part of a Palestinian state.
How many Arabs and Muslims move every year from Israel to the Palestinian territory?
What's stopping them?
Why does almost nobody move in that direction?
Why is almost all the movement the other way?
As always - as with Florida and Cuba,
as with East and West Germany,
as with Europe and the Islamic world -
people vote with their feet.
Their actions are far more eloquent than their words.
Israel's Arab neighbours hate the Jews.
The only Arabs who like the Jews are the 1.5 million Israeli Arabs who live with them.
From Pew Research Center
In Mar 2013, the Israeli public voted for an Israeli Arab Christian,
as winner of
Better proof that Israel is not a racist state you could not get.
Anti-Israel nutcase Max Blumenthal, 23 Mar 2013, responded by sneering:
As Elder of Ziyon
"Think about that for a second. Blumenthal is utterly convinced that the Israeli Jewish public is deeply racist against Arabs. Yet when they vote for a singing competition, they have no compunction voting for an Arab that they supposedly hate.
Blumenthal's explanation? That, while safely anonymous in their homes, the Israeli public decided en masse to vote for the Arab singer, not because she was the most talented but because they wanted a token Arab to win, so that people like him wouldn't consider them racist!"
Not all Israeli Arabs like Israel, it is true:
comes to Ireland, Aug 2012, to pander to Irish prejudices against Israel.
But surely her very existence - as an Israeli Arab who hates Israel
being allowed sit in the Knesset
- proves the lie to these assertions of a racist, apartheid state.
Israeli Embassy, 10 Aug 2012, gives a quick course in why Israel is not a racist state:
They point out that not all Israeli Arabs are like Haneen Zoabi:
"more Arabs vote for the Labour, Likud or Kadima parties than for Ms Zoabi's small party."
There are ongoing attempts to
ban her from re-election.
These may or may not be justified.
But they are obviously related to her anti-Israel activities,
not her ethnicity.
If they were to do with her ethnicity, then
how did she get elected in the first place?
The Zoabi family aren't all bad:
Haneen Zoabi's cousin
is a brave Arab secular Muslim supporter of Israel.
His disgusting, hate-filled relative
"I am happy to see that Israeli hasbara [public diplomacy] is in such a dire state that it needs a stupid boy with a twisted identity who feels a continuous need to apologize to his strong masters".
Mohammad has received
for speaking out for Israel, including from some relatives.
Who I block:
I will debate almost anyone.
I love ideas.
I will not debate (and will block) people who do the following:
(a) Make threats.
(b) Accuse me of crimes.
(c) Comment on my appearance.
(d) Drag in stuff about me not related to the topic. (My professional career, my personal life.)
(e) Complain to my employer.
Yes, people do all these things.