Apartheid South Africa denied human rights and civil liberties to blacks,
and they could not vote,
so a case could be made for the use of some force
against the state.
But real life is never as neat as theory.
After Mandela turned the ANC to violence in 1961,
the ANC committed many crimes and killed many innocents.
Mandela is rightly praised for being a rare revolutionary who set up a democracy,
but the canonisation of Mandela means that ANC violence cannot be discussed.
There is a lot to admire about Mandela.
But it is important to remember that Mandela and the ANC were not peaceful.
And some of their actions were basically terrorism.
Why was Mandela jailed?
Mandela was oppressed for the colour of his skin,
but he was not jailed for the colour of his skin.
He was jailed for
the 1961-63 ANC campaign of violence that he started,
and that killed a
child when the ANC fire-bombed her home.
was founded in 1912 and was non-violent for nearly 50 years.
It was Mandela who turned it onto the path of violence.
Mandela turned the ANC to violence in 1961,
founding its armed wing MK
to carry out attacks.
Mandela turned the ANC to violence in 1961.
He set up their armed wing
to carry out attacks.
It is often said
that the ANC in 1961-63 only carried out sabotage against government property,
and killed no one.
But this is a lie.
By 1962, Mandela's MK men were already bombing the houses of opponents of the ANC,
and they killed a child in 1962 when they fire-bombed her house in the night.
The forgotten victim is Daphne Hoyi.
On the night of
15 Dec 1962,
the MK fire-bombed the house of a black critic of the ANC,
There were children asleep inside.
His niece, 14 year old Daphne Hoyi, was badly burnt and died a few days later.
His daughter, 10 year old Linda Hoyi, was badly burnt but survived.
Evidence of Reginald Mdubi
(an ANC bomber)
He describes joining the new ANC in 1961 to follow the new plan of violence, which he calls the "Mandela Plan".
He describes bombing the houses of blacks who opposed the ANC.
He says they bombed the house of
burning two children,
and one of the children died.
5 year old girl being rushed to hospital
after Mandela's bomb at
Amanzimtoti shopping centre
in 1985. She survived.
The bomb killed her 2 year old brother and an 8 year old girl.
which has more pictures.
Mandela is more like Gerry Adams than like Gandhi.
How many people died in political violence under and after apartheid?
I have not been able to find reliable figures for
how many people died under apartheid in 1948 to 1994,
versus how many died in black-on-black violence in 1961 to date.
(Maybe because the numbers make apartheid look good,
so this is now a taboo subject.)
14,000 blacks killed in 1990-1994. (92 percent of these were black-on-black killings.)
However, I have been unable to find where these numbers come from.
They were said to be in the TRC
but I cannot see them there.
If you find the source,
tell me here.
If these stats are true, then, as the above blog says:
"More blacks then were killed under De Klerk's 'new' anti-apartheid government of 4 years than in 41 years of government under full blown apartheid!"
These stats would also say that
more white farmers
are killed each year now under ANC rule
than black people were killed each year under apartheid rule.
He says that
The World Handbook of Political and Social Indicators, by Charles Lewis Taylor,
lists 1,707 deaths by political violence in South Africa, 1948-1977.
ANC statement to TRC
"Between 1990 and 1993, nearly 12,000 civilians were killed .. in thousands of incidents,
including several major massacres."
But then they reference the Boipatong massacre,
so it is clear they are referring to ANC - Inkatha violence.
Did the ANC kill 300,000?
By some estimates,
300,000 people died
because of the ANC government's
handling of this issue.
South African population growth (in millions) 1910 to 2010.
Apartheid was not genocide. In fact, by numbers, it was the opposite.
Apartheid led to a massive increase in the black population.
1904 census: 3.5 million blacks.
1960 census: 10.9 million blacks.
2011 census: 41 million blacks.
See full size.
From The longer walk to equality,
The Economist, 6 Dec 2013.
Apartheid also saw a massive increase in black life expectancy
(until Mandela destroyed that record).
Note the above is all life expectancy,
but blacks were the vast majority of the population for all this period.
Blocked by the regressive left and Islamists on Twitter:
I love debate.
I love ideas.
But the Western left
and their friends the Islamic right
do not return the favour.
Their response to opposing ideas, whether expressed politely or robustly, is often to block.
See Who blocks me on Twitter.
I will debate almost anyone.
Stick to ideas and I will debate you.
But I do have rules.
See Who I block on Twitter.
Where to debate? Twitter's best days are over.
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Twitter was a truly great place for debate before 2016.
You could meet everyone in the world, and argue about ideas.
Twitter is broken.
It is now full of reporting and bans and censorship.
In 2019, Twitter even started
for no reason that was ever explained, or could ever be appealed.
It is time to find a better place to debate.
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