Article: 50055 of alt.atheism Message-ID: <155530Z14121993@anon.penet.fi> Path: pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!warwick!uknet!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!news.eunet.no!nuug!news.eunet.fi!anon.penet.fi Newsgroups: alt.atheism From: an56828@anon.penet.fi X-Anonymously-To: alt.atheism Organization: Anonymous contact service Reply-To: an56828@anon.penet.fi Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 15:52:51 UTC Subject: biblical inconsistencies Lines: 643 Biblical Contaradictions Theological doctrines 1. God is satisfied with his works God is dissatisfied with his works. 2. God dwells in chosen temples <2 Chron 7:12,16> God dwells not in temples 3. God dwells in light God dwells in darkness <1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2> 4. God is seen and heard God is invisible and cannot be heard 5. God is tired and rests God is never tired and never rests 6. God is everywhere presesnt, sees and knows all things God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all things 7. God knows the hearts of men God tries men to find out what is in their heart 8. God is all powerful God is not all powerful 9. God is unchangable God is changable 10. God is just and impartial God is unjust and partial 11. God is the author of evil God is not the author of evil <1 Cor 14:33/ Deut 32:4/ James 1:13> 12. God gives freely to those who ask God witholds his blessings and prevents men from receiving them 13. God is to be found by those who seek him God is not to be found by those who seek him 14. God is warlike God is peaceful 15. God is cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocius God is kind, merciful, and good 16. God's anger is fierce and endures long God's anger is slow and endures but for a minute 17. God commands, approves of, and delights in burnt offerings, sacrifices ,and holy days God disapproves of and has no pleasure in burnt offerings, sacrifices, and holy days. 18. God accepts human sacrifices <2 Sam 21:8,9,14/ Gen 22:2/ Judg 11:30-32,34,38,39> God fobids human sacrifice 19. God temps men God temps no man 20. God cannot lie God lies by proxy; he sends forth lying spirits t decieve <2 Thes 2:11/ 1 Kings 22:23/ Ezek 14:9> 21. Because of man's wickedness God destroys him Because of man's wickedness God will not destroy him 22. God's attributes are revealed in his works. God's attributes cannot be discovered 23. There is but one God There is a plurality of gods Moral Precepts 24. Robery commanded Robbery fobidden 25. Lying approved and sanctioned Lying forbidden 26. Hatred to the Edomite sanctioned <2 Kings 14:7,3> Hatred to the Edomite forbidden 27. Killing commanded Killing forbidden 28. The blood-shedder must die The blood-shedder must not die 29. The making of images forbidden The making of images commanded 30. Slavery and opression ordained Slavery and opression forbidden 31. Improvidence enjoyed Improvidence condemned <1 Tim 5:8/ Prov 13:22> 32. Anger approved Anger disapproved 33. Good works to be seen of men Good works not to be seen of men 34. Judging of others forbidden Judging of others approved <1 Cor 6:2-4/ 1 Cor 5:12> 35. Christ taught nonresistance Christ taught and practiced physical resistance 36. Christ warned his followers not to fear being killed Christ himself avioded the Jews for fear of being killed 37. Public prayer sanctioned <1 Kings 8:22,54, 9:3> Public prayer disapproved 38. Importunity in prayer commended Importunity in prayer condemned 39. The wearing of long hair by men sanctioned The wearing of long hair by men condemmed <1 Cor 11:14> 40. Circumcision instituted Circumcision condemned 41. The Sabbath instituted The Sabbath repudiated 42. The Sabbath instituted because God rested on the seventh day The Sabbath instituted because God brought the Israelites out of Egypt 43. No work to be done on the Sabbath under penalty of death Jesus Christ broke the Sabbath and justified his deciples in the same 44. Baptism commanded Baptism not commanded <1 Cor 1:17,14> 45. Every kind of animal allowed for food. Certain kinds of animals prohibited for food. 46. Taking of oaths sanctioned Taking of oaths forbidden 47. Marriage approved Marriage disapproved <1 Cor 7:1/ 1 Cor 7:7,8> 48. Freedom of divorce permitted Divorce restricted 49. Adultery forbidden Adultery allowed 50. Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union 51. A man may marry his brother's widow A man may not marry his brother's widow 52. Hatred to kindred enjoined Hatred to kindred condemned 53. Intoxicating beverages recommended Intoxicating beverages discountenanced 54. It is our duty to obey our rulers, who are God's ministers and punish evil doers only It is not our duty to obey rulers, who sometimes punish the good and recieve unto themselves damnation therefor 55. Women's rights denied Women's rights affirmed 56. Obedience to masters enjoined Obedience due to God only 57. There is an unpardonable sin There is not unpardonable sin Historical Facts 58. Man was created after the other animals Man was created before the other animals 59. Seed time and harvest were never to cease Seed time and harvest did cease for seven years 60. God hardened Pharaoh's heart Pharaoh hardened his own heart 61. All the cattle and horses in Egypt died All the horses of Egypt did not die 62. Moses feared Pharaoh Moses did not fear Pharaoh 63. There died of the plague twenty-four thousand There died of the plague but twenty-three thousand <1 Cor 10:8> 64. John the Baptist was Elias John the Baptist was not Elias 65. The father of Joseph, Mary's husband was Jacob The father of Mary's husband was Heli 66. The father of Salah was Arphaxad The father of Salah was Cainan 67. There were fourteen generations from Abraham to David There were but thirteen generations from Abraham to David 68. There were fourteen generations from the Babalonish captivity to Christ. There were but thirteen generations from the Babalonish captivity to Christ 69. The infant Christ was taken into Egypt The infant Christ was not taken into Egypt 70. Christ was tempted in the wilderness Christ was not tempted in the wilderness 71. Christ preached his first sermon on the mount Christ preached his first sermon on the plain 72. John was in prison when Jesus went into Galilee John was not in prison when Jesus went into Galilee 73. Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with a staff and sandals Christ's disciples were commanded to go forth with neither staves not sandals 74. A woman of Canaan besought Jesus It was a Greek woman who besought Him 75. Two blind men besought Jesus Only one blind man besought Him 76. Christ was crucified at the third hour Christ was not crucified until the sixth hour 77. The two thieves reviled Christ. Only one of the thieves reviled Christ 78. Satan entered into Judas while at supper Satan entered into him before the supper 79. Judas committed suicide by hanging Judas did not hang himself, but died another way 80. The potter's field was purchased by Judas The potter's field was purchased by the Chief Priests 81. There was but one woman who came to the sepulchre There were two women who came to the sepulchre 82. There were three women who came to the sepulchre There were more than three women who came to the sepulchre 83. It was at sunrise when they came to the sepulchre It was some time before sunrise when they came. 84. There were two angels seen by the women at the sepulchre, and they were standing up. There was but one angel seen, and he was sitting down. 85. There were two angels seen within the sepulchre. There was but one angel seen within the sepulchre 86. Christ was to be three days and three nights in the grave Christ was but two days and two nights in the grave 87. Holy ghost bestowed at pentecost Holy ghost bestowed before pentecost 88. The disciples were commanded immediately after the resurrection to go into Galilee The disciples were commanded immediately after the resurrection to go tarry at Jerusalem 89. Jesus first appeared to the eleven disciples in a room at Jerusalem Jesus first appeared to the eleven on a mountain in Galilee 90. Christ ascended from Mount Olivet Christ ascended from Bethany 91. Paul's attendants heard the miraculous voice, and stood speechless Paul's attendants heard not the voice and were prostrate 92. Abraham departed to go into Canaan Abraham went not knowing where 93. Abraham had two sons Abraham had but one son 94. Keturah was Abraham's wife Keturah was Abraham's concubine <1 Chron 1:32> 95. Abraham begat a son when he was a hundred years old, by the interposition of Providence Abraham begat six children more after he was a hundred years old without any interposition of providence 96. Jacob bought a sepulchre from Hamor Abraham bought it of Hamor 97. God promised the land of Canaan to Abraham and his seed forever Abraham and his seed never recieved the promised land 98. Goliath was slain by Elhanan <2 Sam 21:19 *note, was changed in translation to be correct. Orignal manuscript was incorrect> The brother of Goliath was slain by Elhanan <1 Chron 20:5> 99. Ahaziah began to reign in the twelfth year of Joram <2 Kings 8:25> Ahaziah began to reign in the eleventh year of Joram <2 Kings 9:29> 100. Michal had no child <2 Sam 6:23> Michal had five children <2 Sam 21:8> 101. David was tempted by the Lord to number Isreal <2 Sam 24:1> David was tempted by Satan to number the people <1 Chron 21:1> 102. The number of fighting men of Isreal was 800,000; and of Judah 500,000 <2 Sam 24:9> The number of fighting men of Isreal was 1,100,000; and of Judah 470,000 <1 Chron 21:5> 103. David sinned in numbering the people <2 Sam 24:10> David never sinned, except in the matter of Uriah 1 Kings 15:5> 104. One of the penalties of David's sin was seven years of famine. <2 Sam 24:13> It was not seven years, but three years of famine <1 Chron 21:11,12> 105. David took seven hundred horsemen <2 Sam 8:4> David took seven thousand horsemen <1 Chron 18:4> 106. David bought a threshing floor for fifty sheckels of silver <2 Sam 24:24> David bought the threshing floor for six hundred shekels of gold <1 Chron 21:25> 107. David's throne was to endure forever. David's throne was cast down Speculative Doctrines 108. Christ is equal with God Christ is not equal with God 109. Jesus was all-powerful Jesus was not all-powerful 110. The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation The law was not superseded by the Christian dispensation 111. Christ's mission was peace Christ's mission was not peace 112. Christ received not testimony from man Christ did recieve testimony from man 113. Christ's witness of himself is true. Christ's winess of himself is not true. 114. Christ laid down his life for his friends Christ laid down his life for his enemies 115. It was lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death It was not lawful for the Jews to put Christ to death 116. Children are punished for the sins of the parents Children are not punished for the sins of the parents 117. Man is justified by faith alone Man is not justified by faith alone 118. It is impossible to fall from grace It is possible to fall from grace 119. No man is without sin <1 Kings 8:46/ Prov 20:9/ Eccl 7:20/ Rom 3:10> Christians are sinless <1 John 3: 9,6,8> 120. There is to be a resurrection of the dead <1 Cor 15:52/ Rev 20:12,13/ Luke 20:37/ 1 Cor 15:16> There is to be no resurrection of the dead 121. Reward and punishment to be bestowed in this world Reward and punishment to be bestowed in the next world 122. Annihilation the portion of all mankind Endless misery the portion of all mankind 123. The Earth is to be destroyed <2 Pet 3:10/ Heb 1:11/ Rev 20:11> The Earth is never to be destroyed 124. No evil shall happen to the godly Evil does happen to the godly 125. Worldly good and prosperity are the lot of the godly Worldly misery and destitution the lot of the godly 126. Worldly prosperity a reward of righteousness and a blessing Worldly prosperity a curse and a bar to future reward 127. The Christian yoke is easy The Christian yoke is not easy 128. The fruit of God's spirit is love and gentleness The fruit of God's spirit is vengance and fury 129. Longevity enjoyed by the wicked Longevity denied to the wicked 130. Poverty a blessing Riches a blessing Neither poverty nor riches a blessing 131. Wisdom a source of enjoyment Wisdom a source of vexation, grief and sorrow 132. A good name is a blessing A good name is a curse 133. Laughter commended Laughter condemned 134. The rod of correction a remedy for foolishness There is no remedy for foolishness 135. A fool should be answered according to his folly A fool should not be answered according to his folly 136. Temptation to be desired Temptation not to be desired 137. Prophecy is sure <2 Pet 1:19> Prophecy is not sure 138. Man's life was to be one hundred and twenty years Man's life is but seventy years 139. The fear of man was to be upon every beast The fear of man is not upon the lion 140. Miracles a proof of divine mission Miracles not a proof of divine mission 141. Moses was a very meek man Moses was a very cruel man 142. Elijah went up to heaven <2 Kings 2:11> None but Christ ever ascended into heaven 143. All scripture is inspired <2 Tim 3:16> Some scripture is not inspired <1 Cor 7:6/ 1 Cor 7:12/ 2 Cor 11:17> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. Article: 77459 of alt.atheism Newsgroups: alt.atheism Path: lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!warwick!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!anrwlias From: anrwlias@netcom.com (A.X. Lias) Subject: 10 bible contradictions Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Sun, 15 May 1994 03:37:40 GMT Lines: 159 I found these through an archie search. Some of them are a little weak, but I thought that they might provide interested reference material if nothing else. ---- Begin Included Text ---- 1. God is satisfied with his works "GOD SAW ALL THAT HE MADE, AND IT WAS VERY GOOD."[GEN 1:31] God is dissatisfied with his works. "The Lord was grieved that he had made man on earth, and his heart was filled with pain." [Gen 6:6] 2. God dwells in chosen temples "the LORD appeared to him at night and said: "I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for myself as a temple of sacrifices.....I have chosen and consecrated this temple so that my Name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there." [2 Chr 7:12,16] God dwells not in temples "However, the Most High does not live in houses made by men." [Acts 7:48] 3. God dwells in light "who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light whom no one has seen or can see." [Tim 6:16] God dwells in darkness "Then spake Solomon. The Lord said that he would dwell in the thick darkness" [1 Kings 8:12] "He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies." [Ps 18:11] "Clouds and darkness are round about him." [Ps 97:2] 4. God is seen and heard [Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/ Ex 24:9-11] God is invisible and cannot be heard [John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16] 5. God is tired and rests In six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. [Ex 31:17] God is never tired and never rests The everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary. [Is 40:28] 6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things [PROV 15:3/ PS 139:7-10/ JOB 34:22,21] God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all things Gen 3:8 - "Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden." [Gen 3:8] "But the LORD came down to see the city and the tower that men were building." [Gen 11:5] "The the LORD said, 'The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sins so grievous that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know." [Gen 18:20-21] 7. God knows the hearts of men [ACTS 1:24; PS 139:2,3] God tries men to find out what is in their heart "Do not lay a hand on the boy," he said. "Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God." [Gen 22:12] "Remember how the LORD your God lead you all the way in the desert these forty years, to humble you and test you in order to know what was in your hearts." [Deut 8:2] "The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul." [Deut 13:3] 8. God is all powerful [JER 32:27/ MATT 19:26] God is not all powerful The LORD was with the men of Judah. They took possession of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had iron chariots." [Judg 1:19] 9. God is unchangable [JAMES 1:17/ MAL 3:6/ EZEK 24:14/ NUM 23:19] God is changable [GEN 6:6/ JONAH 3:10/ 1 SAM 2:30,31/ 2 KINGS 20:1,4,5,6/ EX 33:1,3,17,14] 10. God is just and impartial "TO DECLARE THAT THE LORD IS UPRIGHT; HE IS MY ROCK AND THERE IS NO UNRIGHTEOUSNESS IN HIM." [PS 92:15] "FAR BE IT FROM THEE TO DO SUCH A THING, TO SLAY THE RIGHTEOUS WITH THE WICKED, SO THAT THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE WICKED ARE TREATED ALIKE. FAR BE IT FROM THEE! SHALL NOT THE JUDGE OF ALL THE EARTH DEAL JUSTLY?" [GEN 18:25] "THE ROCK! HIS WORK IS PERFECT, FOR ALL HIS WAYS ARE JUST; A GOD OF FAITHFULNESS AND WITHOUT INJUSTICE, RIGHTEOUS AND UPRIGHT IS HE." [DEUT 32:4] "YET YOU SAY, "THE WAY OF THE LORD IS NOT RIGHT." HERE NOW, O HOUSE OF ISRAEL! IS MY WAY NOT RIGHT? IS IT NOT YOUR WAYS THAT ARE NOT RIGHT?" [EZEK 18:25] "FOR THERE IS NO PARTIALITY WITH GOD." [ROM 2:11] God is unjust and partial "SO HE SAID, CURSED BE CANAAN; A SERVANT OF SERVANTS HE SHALL BE TO HIS BROTHERS." [GEN 9:25] "YOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP THEM OR SERVE THEM; FOR I, THE LORD YOUR GOD, AM A JEALOUS GOD, VISITING THE INIQUITY OF THE FATHERS IN THE CHILDREN, ON THE THIRD AND THE FOURTH GENERATIONS OF THOSE WHO HATE ME." [EX 20:5] "FOR THOUGH THE TWINS WERE NOT YET BORN, AND HAD NOT DONE ANYTHING GOOD OR BAD, IN ORDER THAT GOD'S PURPOSE ACCORDING TO HIS CHOICE MIGHT STAND, NOT BECAUSE OF WORKS, BUT BECAUSE OF HIM WHO CALLS, IT WAS SAID TO HER, "THE OLDER WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER." JUST AS IT IS WRITTEN, "JACOB I LOVED, BUT ESAU I HATED." [ROM 9:11-13] "FOR WHOEVER HAS, TO HIM SHALL MORE BE GIVEN, AND HE SHALL HAVE IN ABUNDANCE; BUT WHOEVER DOES NOT HAVE, EVEN WHAT HE HAS SHALL BE TAKEN FROM HIM." [MT13:12] -- Andrew Lias | anrwlias@netcom.com | Frobozz on IRC *-------------------*-------------------------------*----------------------* Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Bill the Cat R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.